Hannah & Jeff Barron

Jeremy Perkins 0:00
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Jeremy Perkins 0:13
We are here in Alabama on this episode of bucket talk with Jeff and Hannah Barron. Welcome. Hey, sir. Awesome, awesome. So we forgot to talk about this a few times, but Jeff kind of hit the nail on the head when we were talking pre production. Is why we sit on the buckets. And kind of looks a little silly, but Jeff, why do we sit on buckets as tradesmen lunch break?

Jeremy Perkins 0:38
That's where we shoot the that's where we shoot. So that's why this podcast is what it is. I knew exactly what they were when you set them up, because I've done this so many times. Yep, yep. Well, thanks for being on the show. This is, this is fantastic. I kind of want to, I mean, we're in this beautiful place that you guys built, and, you know, it's full of your adventures and whatnot. But I kind of want to dive into early childhood, you know, Jeff and Hannah, how you guys went through basically raising Hannah and and getting to where you guys are are now. But, you know, we're on a how many acre property? I think around 400 I'm thinking it's about four Yeah, so I bought the 100 acres that borders my grandparents, yep, and his property, yeah. So this is a family compound. It is pretty much, yeah, yeah. Compound sounds weird. I like it, yeah, yeah. I don't know. You guys got to get, like, gun turrets and

Jeremy Perkins 1:36
stuff. So

Jeremy Perkins 1:39
as we kind of toured the property. You guys got a lot going on here.

Jeremy Perkins 1:43
You guys got acres of hay. You're growing stuff back there. You got chicken coop. You got that dang pole? What

Hannah Barron 1:53
pole? It's just a lot pole with some gourds in it. But what is there doing? Some Martin, little Martin. The mosquitoes All right? And then mosquitoes got a couple of ponds up here as well as deer. Yeah, fallow deer. Got some deer, fallow deer. Fallow deer, interesting. And they're like Norwegian,

Jeff Barron 2:20
exactly where they're from, Norwegian sounding

Jeff Barron 2:24
good, New Zealand, but they nothing. Oh, New Zealand. Okay, so yeah, but yeah, but they know nothing originates from New Zealand. They were Mac, are you googling that? I don't know exactly where they started from. Yeah, we got them. Producer Mac, where are fallow deer from? There you go. You got to tap faster than

Jeff Barron 2:42
that. Dead Space is good. Dead Space is good. I think he's making himself taller with the hair. That's the strategy that is Europe, parts of Asia. Okay, what parts? Yep, Oh, yeah. What New Zealand, Australia. Oh,

Jeff Barron 2:54
they got them in Australia too. Okay, cool. I didn't know. I've never Googled it. I'm not good at googling

Jeremy Perkins 3:02
oogling. But not Googling, right?

Jeremy Perkins 3:05
So at an early age, you're a home builder by trade, right? Yep. And I could Yes, sir, and then you guys kind of did this whole thing of getting into the hunting and fishing and all that stuff. How'd that all come about? Oh, man, that that came about when I was, you know, when I grew up really poor, for one that's how they had no no, no, listen, listen, y'all, we weren't really poor. My pop is just tight.

Jeff Barron 3:36
We had more money than I ever thought we did, or they did, yeah, but we lived off the land in order to keep that money. Yeah, that's just the way he was. And mom too. Mom's super conservative too. So yeah. So I started out sour cream tubs. And yeah, I mean, every cup in the dark gum sink, washing that Joker out. She saves everything. But yeah, I started hunting when, I guess, five or six. And everything that I would bring in the house, it didn't matter what it was, mom would cook it. So when I was in, when I was going through high school, I was getting up in the morning before school and killing squirrels. And that's what I was eating for breakfast, really, the squirrels that I ate, that I killed the morning before squirrel gravy. Squirrel gravy, biscuits. Yes, yes, sir. And then you wanted to pass that on to her. Of course, if she wanted it, I'd never pushed it on her. If she wanted it, I didn't know. I didn't push it. Now, obviously that happened at a young age. But what was your attraction to it? Yeah, just one here, this, this is this. I don't even know. I've just always loved it. Is it what you wanted to follow in your father's footsteps? It was, I think I was too young at that point to understand it. I just knew I enjoyed it, and I liked being out there, and I liked doing it. Yes, no, it wasn't all about the killing. No, not at all, because he made sure that I could clean a deer before I even killed one. Yeah, I've left her before with two deer, and she was 10, probably 10, and when I got back.

Jeff Barron 5:00
From a bed on a house she had, she had hung skin, boned out and in the cooler when I got back, all right, efficiency, and she's clean. She cleaned so she's dressed Coons and everything, yeah, the first time I ever cleaned the turtle? Yeah, you have no okay, see, there we go. So she can dress turtles too. And that's what you the first time you clean, what? Oh, first time, the first time I cleaned a coon, a raccoon. Daddy left me with him and said, You'll figure it out. You did. What were you making? You're gonna make a pillow. Yeah, she was gonna make a big blanket. Or I would have, I would have made a hat. Well, we had multiple Coons, so you'd have multiple. You

Jeremy Perkins 5:40
got a big some people call it a blanket. Other people it may take a whole travel. All

Jeremy Perkins 5:51
right, so not me, well,

Jeff Barron 5:54
I'm trying to get you back. Yeah, while ago.

Jeremy Perkins 5:56
So that was kind of the thesis for this. You guys lived off the land. That's how you kind of grew up, hunting, fishing, building, maintaining the land, maintaining the property. And you wanted to pass that on to her. It's kind of cool that you're here. You haven't moved off to the big city. You're you're back here, doing the same thing, falling in the same footprints that your father was in. And so tell me a little bit about this, the house, yes. Oh, so I lived in 192

Hannah Barron 6:23
square foot, tiny house that we built, just say, eight by 24 because it's eight by 24

Jeff Barron 6:28
it was eight feet wide, 24 feet long. It's tiny, yeah, okay,

Jeff Barron 6:32
yeah. But four foot of that was porch, wasn't it? Or was it some of that was the

Jeff Barron 6:37
Porsche? No, we built it over the he lifted over the tongue. Yeah, we built the porch

Hannah Barron 6:41
over the tongue. Scratch that it is. I did have a

Jeff Barron 6:44
full eight by 24

Jeff Barron 6:46
I had the full eight by 24 square foot, tiny house. Either way, the Joker's little, little I lived in that for eight years, pretty much saving up for this house that I've been planning since I was 15, when I first started helping him on the house.

Jeff Barron 7:01
When did you? When did you move in? It little over a year ago? No, I'm talking about the little Oh,

Jeremy Perkins 7:06
my job's going here. Jeff, no,

Jeff Barron 7:11
I'm trying to remember, though, yeah, like I was 20. I was 19 or 20 when I moved in the in the tiny house, my man, I won't ask

Jeremy Perkins 7:19
more questions. No, no, no, you were on fire. So what were you 20 when you moved into it, I was 19

Hannah Barron 7:28
or 20, somewhere in there. And then I moved in this one when I was 2827 28 I don't know, somewhere in there. What am I now? 2827

Jeremy Perkins 7:39
and then you wanted to, obviously, display a lot of your adventures together, but it was more to work with him and get this thing built,

Hannah Barron 7:47
yeah, pretty much. I mean, we got it dried in, in like, what, a month and a half, and then let it sit. Because what was it? Was it hunting season or noodling season? It was something because, you know, we don't, we don't do stuff during hunting season, noodling

Jeff Barron 8:00
season? No, no, we do take off, yeah, especially January, because that's our rut. So we don't, yeah, we

Hannah Barron 8:04
try. He's always done that, though. Always took off January for rut. Now,

Jeremy Perkins 8:09
you said dried off right in, dried in. Yeah. What

Jeff Barron 8:12
does that mean? Sides, exterior, windows and doors and roof, yeah, so none of the interior done, yeah? But when do I get to that point? Then we start waiting on, you know, insulation, well, wiring, plumbing and in the insulation, and then h back. So it's why you don't say roughed in. We say dried in. But down here we do interesting, but it would be the same, yeah, roughed in.

Jeremy Perkins 8:33
Okay, cool. So who was part of the design process? Was this all you it

Hannah Barron 8:38
was both. I knew I wanted this style roof. He had built a wedding venue that had the monitor roof. And I was like, I want that. And then I looked at I actually drew the side like these plans for this, like the bathroom, the bedroom, the giant closet I have. And he went and tweaked it, him and my grandmother went and tweaked it. Nanny definitely did too, but she's gonna

Jeff Barron 9:06
have her fingers in it for sure.

Jeremy Perkins 9:08
So a lot of this timber came out of Yeah, you remember I

Jeff Barron 9:13
was pointing, Yep, yeah, that bigger fine timber. So

Jeremy Perkins 9:18
you guys have your own saw mill on property, and when did you guys get in a cut in timber?

Jeff Barron 9:23
I think I was 21 when I had my first meal, really? Who taught you that? Oh, wood miser,

Jeremy Perkins 9:29
really? Yeah, elaborate. That's the salt. The brand

Jeff Barron 9:33
company, yeah, the company comes out and demonstrates the meal. So they taught me.

Jeremy Perkins 9:37
So you just bought a mill, and they came out and showed you how to use it. Yep, cool.

Jeff Barron 9:41
And then went with it from there, sold that one, and let's see, it was probably how long I

Hannah Barron 9:51
think I was about, because you had it when we were building those houses on the lake, weren't didn't you? Yeah, I was 15 then, because that's. When I started helping you. Yeah, so what? 1328, now, I'll let you do the math. 13

Jeff Barron 10:05
years, and it was a 1990 model, and I paid $3,500 for it, and it hadn't been cranked and running, I don't know how long,

Hannah Barron 10:12
and it's made him more dug on money and saved us more money.

Jeff Barron 10:16
Interesting, and you can cut. I mean, it's not like it's high speed, it's 2000 foot a day. If you got good lumber, I mean, good blogs. So, I mean, it's not like it's, you know, big production meal. I mean, it's all manual, but if you got good logs, you can cut 2000 foot a day.

Jeremy Perkins 10:32
Now, do you guys cut them out of here yourself? Or you guys have a company? Or do we want

Hannah Barron 10:36
him? He cuts them. He goes out with a chainsaw. No, I cut

Jeff Barron 10:42
them. Yeah, it's pointing at that big camera. I get it right there. I cut it down. I get it with the Lowell, and I bring it, just drop it right on the route, right there, and load it on the route. Saw it in the lumber. That's where all this, all this stuff and and all these trusses, yeah, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of board foot that I've cut right

Hannah Barron 11:01
there all our catfish boxes, the sides are cut

Jeff Barron 11:05
from this yellow pine. Wow. And your, lot of your framing, where you're from, is probably our Southern Yellow Pine, because it's stronger than the white pine, than the white pine, interesting. And a lot of, most of, I want to say 90% even, even when we were in New Mexico, all of that pressure traded five quarter armor was all yellow pine from right here in this part of the country.

Jeremy Perkins 11:29
So you guys reclaimed a lot of this stuff, like that back wall there. Yeah, that was off of

Hannah Barron 11:34
the back wall came from an old barn that's on the front of the property we and that 10 that makes up that little lean too, and

Jeremy Perkins 11:43
it's all board and batten. That's cool.

Jeff Barron 11:46
And ain't it pretty? It is pretty, yep. So it looks like a general store. It's like you're walking into the general store, but you're walking

Hannah Barron 11:56
because it's got that little think

Jeremy Perkins 11:57
about it looks like Cabela's to be honest with you,

Hannah Barron 12:01
that's what he always says.

Jeff Barron 12:02
I wish I could say something about the reason I went to all this extreme when I can't. Can the reason you remember I told you,

Hannah Barron 12:11
yeah, you can't. You can't say that. I can't say that I was

Jeff Barron 12:15
gonna say, I mean, because are we gonna come in here seriously and drive all this thing and just blew through and put some regular painted trim around out, you know, around the baseboards and stuff, and been done with it. But we didn't lose my house. She wanted something a little special. She wanted all wood. But I was thinking, it's going to be too much with all wood,

Jeremy Perkins 12:35
yeah. So that's why we put some sheet rock in it to make

Jeff Barron 12:39
if you had it to do. We could probably do it in three

Hannah Barron 12:43
months. Yeah, because we got it dried in in like a month and a half. Then we took the time out. Took a month and a half well. And then once he got the inside done, and we were waiting on paint, is when he fell out of the tree and broke his neck and his back.

Jeff Barron 12:55
I had just built

Jeff Barron 12:56
that. Just

Jeff Barron 12:58
built that. And then, and then rut comes in in January, and that's when we knock off. So I wanted to get this done. And then we were waiting on the painters, because we didn't, I didn't paint it right? And, oh, the next, what was it the next day? Or something.

Hannah Barron 13:14
I mean, it was January, 1 of January. It was January 5, 2024, and

Jeff Barron 13:18
then we were climbing. I was climbing, hanging sets, and she was putting feed out and cameras,

Jeff Barron 13:23
and then I was and you went and checked a buddy of our stand, yeah, and that's the one that broke, and the strap broke. He didn't have his phone. I didn't know where he was. How did we get off on this? But it's school, because it's part of building this house.

Jeff Barron 13:37
It is. So it sort of put a stand still, because I had because

Hannah Barron 13:41
nothing else mattered at that point, but getting him back to being okay, because when we left the hospital, they told me, Don't let him move weird, because he could shift, and his vertebras that are broke could sever his spinal cord and kill

Jeff Barron 13:56
him. But I wasn't staying in the hospital. I didn't spend the night in the hospital.

Hannah Barron 13:59
He's very stubborn,

Jeremy Perkins 14:00
clearly, you can't tell, but he had to sit on a bucket with a broke with a with a torn hamstring. Yeah,

Hannah Barron 14:07
he had three broke vertebrae in his neck and two in his back and a

Jeff Barron 14:11
busted kidney,

Hannah Barron 14:12
bruised kidney.

Jeff Barron 14:13
But, yeah, bruised. Okay, bruised sounds better, I guess, than busted. Busted you have surgery. Yeah, they had to take it out.

Jeremy Perkins 14:21
So how'd you break the hamstring for our listeners? I mean, I was there. This was

Hannah Barron 14:29
yesterday. It was yesterday. Yesterday, yesterday.

Jeff Barron 14:32
Okay, so the the last competition of Oh cowboys, little deal and the guy shot the bow. Okay, so, so we got each one of us has got a station that we have to run to from the station prior to so this guy shoots the bow and misses, but cowboy thinks he hits it, so he said, hit. So I slapped the ball on the shoulder and take out front. Yep, and at a good pace, would y'all say it was

Hannah Barron 14:59
equal? He was running full tilt. It

Jeremy Perkins 15:02
was jogging. Yeah, okay, we'll say whatever.

Hannah Barron 15:05
Y'all have a different definition of jogging and running. Don't

Jeff Barron 15:11
get me wrong. I watched Jeremy. I watched Jeremy because he had the same station, the same Yeah.

Jeremy Perkins 15:21
Threw the AX about 40 times I'm running wind sprints. Cowboys kept on saying, Get closer, get closer. All right. Well, you just quit

Jeff Barron 15:33
so hard, yeah. And man, I was thinking, man, just let me throw one time for him and let him go. Let him go. I did. I felt sorry for you a little bit there. Oh, thanks.

Jeff Barron 15:42
I felt sorry for you, and it looked like they shot you with a shot across. That's

Jeremy Perkins 15:47
that's what happens. That's what happens. But I will say I was really impressed. Hey, you made it to the station B you threw that first hatchet. It didn't stick. It didn't stick. And I'm like, Oh, if he doesn't stick the second, he's gotta run and get it and run back. And he sure as hell stuck that second hatch. And was like, this, oh, goodness.

Jeff Barron 16:10
I was thinking about that old time. I said, If I don't stick one of these two, I've got to run, get the hatchets and then run back and do it again. So,

Hannah Barron 16:18
and the thing is, is he makes so much fun of me when I go to the gym because of how long I stretch when I'm like, that's how I don't get hurt. And then he goes and runs and tears a hamstring. Okay, listen,

Jeff Barron 16:33
listen, okay. She said daddy go gym with me. First time he's over exaggerating. I'll go eat. You know, I need to do something. He's running or whatever. I ain't done no manual labor today. So, yeah, I'll go with you. So she's in there stretching. I have hit every machine in the entire gym, three. Yeah,

Hannah Barron 16:53
he don't have a life day pool. He just

Jeff Barron 16:57
goes. I do legs, back, arms, butt, calves, I do it all. If I went the day I went with Yeah, she's still over stretching. So, yeah, I'm gonna drive my own vehicle. If I ever go back up there again, it will not be with her. He's exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating. It's an hour. Listen, who got

Hannah Barron 17:18
the door and hamstring right now, though, I

Jeff Barron 17:20
Yeah, true that. But listen,

Jeff Barron 17:25
we weren't working out, no, but you was giving it everything you know. Why?

Jeremy Perkins 17:29
Debatable on whether or not we were working out. I was working out.

Jeff Barron 17:33
You were working out. Yeah, you were sweating, yeah, but there's no air up there either. The air is thin. Did you notice that? Yeah, because we're at 8000 elevation. Yeah, we were 8000 that's why, when you walk up the stairs or something, it's like, you know, you

Jeremy Perkins 17:46
Oh, thank God. I thought it was because I was fat.

Jeff Barron 17:49
No, it wasn't. That is good. Let's get back to the house. Glad I can make you

Jeremy Perkins 17:56
feel so you you broke your neck checking a buddy's tree stand, yeah, yeah. And did he pay the hospital bill? No,

Jeff Barron 18:06
it wasn't. It wasn't his fault.

Jeff Barron 18:07
No, it's not his fault. I don't know. Brett's chewed the squirrel chewed the strap. I don't know. I couldn't look around. And then you

Jeremy Perkins 18:16
crawled your ass out of there. I

Jeff Barron 18:18
walked out, holding my head up, yeah, holding my head up and walked out.

Jeremy Perkins 18:22
And then, how long did it take you guys to get back to building? How long was your recovery

Hannah Barron 18:29
at that point we had got past, like, a lot of the stuff that he needed to do, because we were waiting on paint and then flooring.

Jeff Barron 18:37
It took him forever to get though, yeah, that it took forever by the time, well, I was I killed a deer. That was January the fifth. I killed a deer right there.

Hannah Barron 18:47
This is not a buzz for anybody to do

Jeff Barron 18:51
over here. And I had some hay bales lined up, and I had 200 yards shot to the wood line out here, and I killed an eight point matter of fact, the deer was in her yard, chasing, does? It's crazy, yeah. And it wound up coming around this way, and I shot it right out there. And that was, what, what the

Jeff Barron 19:08
15th or 18th? I don't know. I just know it stressed me out. And then

Jeff Barron 19:13
I was supposed to wore the brace for, I don't know, three

Hannah Barron 19:17
months. Yeah, three months period. They finished the house. I don't, I don't even know I moved in. I know when I moved in it was like, May. Yeah, it was May, because it was right when I got Josie, okay, in May,

Jeff Barron 19:32
January to May. And that was me, you know, hobbling around like I am now.

Jeff Barron 19:39
And that was I didn't have countertops when I moved in, My bed was sitting on the floor, and

Jeff Barron 19:44
they didn't have undo me, though, no, my little one countertop right here, the live age right there was on there, yeah. And I had built those, yeah. So I did that after and I did all the trim work and hung the interior doors and everything, trying to figure out this is, can you talk about how you got the.

Hannah Barron 20:01
Metal on the roof from marketplace. Yeah, yeah. So the tin and the ceiling is from Facebook marketplace. It come off chicken houses. And then we got the can lights. There's this lighting in it, spray foam over that. And then more metal on the roof. We did metal on the whole outside. We got white tin.

Jeff Barron 20:17
I would, I would strongly advise that anybody metal

Hannah Barron 20:21
don't have to worry about it. You gotta worry about

Jeremy Perkins 20:23
nothing. And White's good because it doesn't soak up the heat, right? Well,

Hannah Barron 20:27
how many times have you had stained the house down there?

Jeff Barron 20:30
Oh, I wouldn't even get into that. It's main maintenance on wood. Is just crazy. I mean, especially here with this humidity, it's crazy. It is pretty. It's beautiful.

Jeremy Perkins 20:40
And that's all galvanized, right?

Jeff Barron 20:41
Yes, in the top, the top is Galvalume up top. And if people put Oh, down here, they want these darker colors, like the red, you know, the barn red, or the green or brown, or whatever, in the heat will actually back the screw out. And once it backs the screw out, and the washer breaks the surface of the 10, yeah, and the water runs down the hole, out, and then you strip it out. I gotta go with white or Gavilan. I would go with Gavilan, but White's gonna be

Jeremy Perkins 21:08
cooler. That's exactly what I have going on my barn. I have, think, gray on there, and every single screws, yeah, let's

Jeff Barron 21:15
see it. And what it is, is the heat. If you'll listen to that barn, you can, you can a cloud. Can come over and you can hear it, and that's what it's doing. It's just moving. It's expanding and contracting that metal, because it's so hot. So it's backing that all it's got to do is back that screw out far enough to break that washer water, run down the three, yep, rot the hole out. And I don't care you put a, you got to put a half inch lag bolt in there to get any grip with a, you know, with an inner tube on it. So you guys,

Jeremy Perkins 21:43
you guys were down to paint and floor, and then you installed

Hannah Barron 21:47
the floor. No, we had a jack, yeah, friend of mine, yeah, friend Yeah, friend of mine. Come done it. Come installed it. Yep. And around the stairs were already down. He made it look like that floor is under the stairs. Cut around it, yeah, he did. He took

Jeff Barron 22:01
a little saw and cut underneath those big beams. And you can't even tell, yeah, because, you know, this is this floating floor. You have to have a three, eight gap all the way around, because it expands and contracts not it's gonna, you know, buckle in the middle. So you have to have

Hannah Barron 22:15
play. Yeah, this is vinyl plank.

Jeremy Perkins 22:17
Now, you guys don't have basements here, right? Sellers, we

Jeff Barron 22:21
some people do. It just depends on if you're on the side of a hill or whatever. But here, no, I mean, not on flat ground. You wouldn't because, I mean, you're going to get into water, yeah. So the water tables up pretty high. Well, I mean, it's possible. It depends on where you if you build it on a heel, you know, then you would probably be fine. But

Jeremy Perkins 22:36
nice, nice. I mean, it's a, it's an absolute gorgeous space. And you guys put a lot of blood, sweat, tears, into this thing. I'm impressed. Let's, uh, let's jump over to the outdoor side. So obviously, you shot, well, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, but you shot your first deer at eight, and then, you know, kind of got into it with your father. How'd you make it to here? Sorry, Gwen, no. How'd you make it to

Hannah Barron 23:01
this? Oh, the social media blew up, definitely, yeah. Because if not, we'd still be hunting and still loving it the same old Alabama white tail. We still will always hold a, no doubt, giant place in our heart. Oh, no, it's the best. It's home, and they're still the hardest dead young deer to kill. I'd rather kill

Jeff Barron 23:19
130 inch deer here at home than I would 160 inch deer anywhere else. That's just the way we are. You

Jeff Barron 23:25
two goo, yeah, but when, okay, you

Jeff Barron 23:31
don't dip snuff. No, I see a dip snuff fixing my right up bush. Like did I see it. Alabama Bush lights different,

Hannah Barron 23:42
but when the

Jeff Barron 23:43
better for you? Yeah, it's

Jeremy Perkins 23:46
just got a different Can

Jeff Barron 23:47
you just want all this red Mac that's happening too much, man, it's too much going on.

Jeremy Perkins 23:53
Barely understand you. Jeff, oh,

Hannah Barron 23:57
goodness. But when social media blew up, we ended up getting all these opportunity stuff, exactly what it was, different places. We made a lot steel be

Jeff Barron 24:07
chasing these white tails right here.

Jeremy Perkins 24:08
No, but hold on a sec. This is actually pretty interesting, because we talked a little bit about it on the ride. You know, when people talk about businesses or or just like anything in life, it's timing. It's, you know, putting yourself out there, having, you know, the right backing or whatever. But a lot of it is luck. It is love. And for you, it was 2016

Hannah Barron 24:29
right in 2016 I posted, I had like, 1000 followers on Instagram. He had a flip phone.

Jeff Barron 24:35
This wasn't the

Jeremy Perkins 24:37
dream. You were about ready to be a realtor, help him out. And I was

Hannah Barron 24:40
trying to figure out what I was gonna I was in college, trying to figure out what I was gonna do, but, um, realtor was a thought. I thought, when I was, I was he was building houses to sell, and I was like, Oh, if I'm realtor, I can sell

Jeff Barron 24:55
the house, yeah, commission. Know that six or 10% whatever, yeah, she'd be making that money.

Jeremy Perkins 24:59
Yeah, yeah. So in 2016 you put out, what was the video?

Hannah Barron 25:03
Video catching like a 30 pound catfish, yep. And it just posted on Instagram. That's all I did. And it blew up. Somebody got it and reposted on Facebook, and it got like 25 million views in the first week, and everything just started building from there, and

Jeremy Perkins 25:18
we ran with it. And that was when, that was a time when things weren't viral. Yeah, we

Jeff Barron 25:22
didn't have tick tock then, so, yeah, stuff didn't just blow up. Like,

Jeff Barron 25:26
it, no, it was, it went viral. Wouldn't you say?

Jeff Barron 25:28
No, we're saying now stuff goes viral easier, like, on tick tock. I don't

Jeremy Perkins 25:35
even think they said that term back then.

Jeff Barron 25:37
They probably didn't, yeah, but um, so 20 and y'all like, like that so long it's so far back, it's not I'm just, I know, right? I know.

Jeremy Perkins 25:45
But so 2016 this goes viral. You're like, oh, like, I have something here. But how did you take that and run with it?

Jeff Barron 25:52
Just I made a public Facebook page. I just started posting more, building more into it, keeping it rolling, I guess.

Jeremy Perkins 26:01
But you knew nothing about social media at the time. Goodness, no, nothing. But I learned as I went really and it just kept compounding. Yep, still learning. And now cat fishing, right? So that's, that's how this all came about. How did catfishing all come about? Because we're, this is all hunting, but there's a whole fishing side of things.

Hannah Barron 26:20
Yeah, that came from, yeah. So we've been running trot lines and stuff fishing our whole lives, but, um, our Game Warden, Mr. Brad Gavins, moved down, and is our neighbor still. And, you know, Dad's got his saw mill, like he was talking about. And Mr. Brad had a bunch of logs he wanted daddy to cut, so he cut them, and we kind of barked friendship out of that. And he said, Hey, y'all want to go noodling. And when he first said it, we thought he meant like, cutting up pool noodles and tying trot lines Bush hooks or something to it. But he was talking about

Jeff Barron 26:51
noodling, yeah, all right, Mac, yeah. We want to go. Yeah,

Hannah Barron 26:55
we want to go. And

Jeremy Perkins 26:56
so it was kind of funny. The first time I heard about noodling, oh was probably in Oh 809, right? So I, I was in the military at the time, I met up with a South Carolina boy, and he was, you know, my shipmate, and he was like, Hey, come down to South Carolina with me. We'll, we'll have a good time for the weekend. You meet the family and everything. And then it's this big old boy comes up to me, and he's probably about 50, and he had this tattoo on his arm, and it's like a hand and a catfish. And he kind of explained noodling, but it was like the first time I've ever I'm really 2122 I've never heard about it, yeah. And now some people call it hillbilly hand fishing. Some people call him noodling

Hannah Barron 27:41
hogging. But

Jeremy Perkins 27:42
it was funny because he was missing like, three or four fingers. I was like, I'd love to do this,

Jeff Barron 27:47
but, yeah, we don't miss the three or four fingers Exactly. Yeah, I can understand.

Jeremy Perkins 27:51
But I had asked you off camera why he's missing those three now. I mean, this is 20 years ago, yeah, and I still haven't found out the answer. I figured, yeah, I know what it was, them, them, JAWS break it, but explain why this turtle or Beaver, right? So you're sticking your hand into a hole, and this is, this is the bait. Well,

Jeff Barron 28:09
it's not really bait. It would just be a, you know, it would be a threat to the fish that's bedding in

Hannah Barron 28:15
the hole. So the whole concept of noodling, because a lot of people don't understand, they think that you just go in the water and find fish. Yeah, you're finding their bed areas. So catfish lay eggs where sunlight can't get to them, and whether that's in the banks, under boat ramps, or we put out

Jeff Barron 28:32
boxes log, you know, hollow log, or so, yeah,

Hannah Barron 28:35
it serves as their bedding area. So when you run your hand in there, they think it's something in

Hannah Barron 28:41
in their bed, yeah? I mean, they run everything off the bed. Catfish, same way, except those catfish. You just gotta, you know, you got a 60 pound fish that's doing the same thing and just doing more damage.

Jeremy Perkins 28:52
So then you stick your, your hand in there. He bites down. Yeah, right. But then, yeah, you tell me, there's a there's definitely yeah. So this thing just starts spinning

Jeff Barron 29:03
on you good. I mean, it just depends. Not all of them do, but some of them do. Probably the one I want, the one you're gonna grab, we're gonna make sure it's gonna rip, rip your arm up. Well, it will, yeah, it'll skin you up, pretty good. But then it'll get tired, huh? Then it'll get tired. No, it'll just quit. I mean, it'll, it'll, sometimes they'll sew, you know, they'll sew.

Jeremy Perkins 29:21
Then you grab that bottom jaw, hang on, get your hand behind the gill plate, and you yank that so you hang on tight, yeah, and try not to drown at the

Jeff Barron 29:29
same time. It's shallow water. Oh, it's shallow Yeah, yeah.

Hannah Barron 29:32
I got we put all our Yeah, we put all our bodies

Jeremy Perkins 29:37
shallow water. I was in the Coast Guard, shallow

Hannah Barron 29:41
water. Anyway, go ahead, we put our boxes out where my short butt can touch. Well, no, we

Jeff Barron 29:46
do it because a lot of people that we take, they're all new. A lot of them are new. Yeah, so so we don't want anybody you know, you know, you don't want to have to be out there tiptoeing or jumping up to get iron and going down and fighting. I was nervous about this. Yeah, there's nothing to be yeah, there's nothing to be nervous. I got you, I mean, you, if you

Jeremy Perkins 30:03
lose a finger second, I could barely tie my boots, you know, without passing out. So, oh

Jeff Barron 30:08
no, yeah, but you'd be fine. All right, we got you, long as you got that good grip, you do? You got it? We're just gonna hang on. Then we're gonna eat fried catfish.

Jeremy Perkins 30:15
Yeah? So you guys got good, good at this over time, right? So he introduced you to this. You were the first one to do this, learn it. We were together.

Jeff Barron 30:25
She was with me. Are you talking about he went first? Or what you mean? I don't know. Did I go first? I can't remember.

Jeff Barron 30:32
I can't remember either. No, while it's been a long time ago, and

Jeremy Perkins 30:34
then you guys were hooked. You

Jeff Barron 30:36
was like, I had to ask Brian. I said, Brian, can we go back? You know? And he didn't go. He

Hannah Barron 30:41
went like he was, he was burnt out on it. Really been doing it for a while, yeah, he was burnt out.

Jeff Barron 30:46
So we took it and just went. But now we were not fishing his spot, you know, we were just fishing.

Hannah Barron 30:52
And then, because they had boxes out, we just fished, yeah,

Jeff Barron 30:55
but let me tell you, we took to it, and then we were eating the fish. I mean, we were eating a lot of fish. Now we don't even eat the fish. Like, if all of us go and we catch one, that's we don't eat the big fish. Well, not because they're not good to eat. They are good to eat. But we'll keep a small one to feed everybody. And that's it. We turn the rest of them back, yeah. And then that way we can catch them again. And we have we put zip ties in those that fin on the back, yep, and we've got some that we've just what have four, three or four zip ties in that fin. That's cool. Over the years, different colored zip tie for, you know, different

Jeremy Perkins 31:31
years. Do you know where noodling came about? Mac like, who was this crazy bastard that decides

Jeff Barron 31:36
somebody was hungry? Yeah, they was hungry. I know how they figured it out, though, on the boat.

Hannah Barron 31:41
Hey, you walk around when I'm bite you on the foot. Somebody

Jeremy Perkins 31:43
was loading your boat. Oh, so it might have been foot first. Like, this person will be a foot, yeah, it's

Jeff Barron 31:48
gonna definitely be a foot bit first. And then, like, what was that?

Hannah Barron 31:51
Yeah, is Mac over there googling

Jeremy Perkins 31:53
it? Yeah. I mean, I gotta know when noodling started or became a thing. They have. Americans

Jeff Barron 31:58
really, really, that's cloaking. I told you some hungry folks, Native

Mac 32:03
Americans and early European fishing traditions.

Mac 32:05
That's cool, particularly in the

Jeff Barron 32:08
American South. So, like, down here, yeah, right here where we're at, yep. That is so cool. Whatever the like, indigenous or Native

Mac 32:16
American tribes that were here, like, originally, were the first to do it. Wow. That is cool. There

Jeff Barron 32:24
you go. We just, so we just carrying on the tradition, yeah, that's what we do. Yeah, that's crazy, yeah.

Jeremy Perkins 32:32
I thought it was some crazy bastard that figured it out.

Jeff Barron 32:35
And I mean, it probably was

Jeff Barron 32:38
in modern day, it was, it was in modern day, he was walking around trying to hook up his trailer or get his bottom. He stuck his out in the hole, and when he did, boom, he said,

Jeremy Perkins 32:50
Yeah. So what's the biggest catfish either of you have caught?

Jeff Barron 32:55
She's caught the biggest. We always let her get the biggest, because

Hannah Barron 33:00
also here we come. Here we gonna say anything bad I was gonna say also, daddy doesn't get as much from catching big fish as I do. His favorite thing is deer.

Jeff Barron 33:11
Deer. White tailed deer is my favorite.

Hannah Barron 33:13
But I get so excited catching a big fish. When I caught my 70 pound fish, I had people messaging me, telling me that they heard me screaming from across the lake, but to me

Jeff Barron 33:23
in the reason, okay, okay, so that's another reason that

Hannah Barron 33:27
daddy's like, you can't fish. We didn't know that fish was that big.

Jeff Barron 33:32
People are gonna want to see you catch the big fish. But we don't

Hannah Barron 33:35
do it for people. We do it for the fun.

Hannah Barron 33:37
I'm doing it because we love at that because, yeah, that's give me a dip snub.

Hannah Barron 33:47
Yeah, we don't do it for the people we do it for. I know

Jeff Barron 33:49
that, but I mean, well, actually, that

Jeremy Perkins 33:51
is not true. Yeah, it's not true. This is not true. Actually, when I talked to you, Father, off off set, I was actually floored by the amount of people that you have taken out to experience what you guys have experienced. Now, I know it wasn't what you're talking about, yeah, but I like the generosity and the give back and the education and all the stuff that you guys have done unbelievable. I mean, from my wife to my daughter to my son, seeing you do what you do is like, super empowering to them. Like, you know, the hunting and fishing community is a super tight community. And yeah, we might shoot at each other from from different blinds, because you're, you're hunting my land, but yeah, with it, yeah, don't worry about all that stuff. But the reality is, you know, we're all out there to do the same thing, and we're proud, yeah, and it's, I mean, it is a cool, it is a cool experience to watch you take out the young ones and teach them about that. I mean, you've brought all types of people. I mean, look at you, look at

Hannah Barron 34:58
your grandmother. Oh yeah, there. Nanny, 78 catching her first catfish, and she can't even swim. She couldn't, cannot, terrified like the water. Can't. But I

Jeremy Perkins 35:06
mean that that's, that's amazing, right? So you are doing it for the people. You're just not doing it for the likes and the views. Yeah,

Hannah Barron 35:14
I'm gonna kick him off this. They do, though they really do. She gonna take that fist,

Hannah Barron 35:26
busted hamstring. Okay, listen, we have gotten spoiled over the years.

Jeff Barron 35:31
I had a very good point I was gonna make Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I can't remember it now, but go ahead.

Jeff Barron 35:36
Oh no, I'm not gonna ruin the moment. I'm not gonna

Hannah Barron 35:37
I don't remember it

Jeff Barron 35:40
though, we spoiled over the years, and it's easier for us to catch bigger fish if, okay, say we've got a 25 so you remember this now, Jeremy, because when I try to show you in the hole, when the 25 pound blue, then you're going to say, how big is it? That's probably about 25 pounds. It won't be, no problem. Don't, don't, believe me, because it's gonna be bad,

Jeff Barron 36:04
ain't it? Goose, yeah, the small blue, the

Jeff Barron 36:06
bigger, the bigger fish are gonna be easier to catch. For us, we

Hannah Barron 36:09
break something. It might as well be from a big fish enough,

Jeff Barron 36:12
there you go. And we have broken everything we got catching fish. So if you don't catch one, let's catch a big

Jeremy Perkins 36:18
one. Yeah, I'm, I'm excited. Let's go podcast over. But no, I mean, I'm just again. I'm floored the education and everything that you guys put out there. I mean, from I feel like hunting and fishing has made a resurgence because of social media. And I think definitely, yeah, I do too. I think there's a lot of people, my wife included. I mean, she's gonna kill me when she sees this, but she didn't grow up in a hunting family, you know. And for all intents and purposes, I did not either. There's always something that I wanted to do. I, you know, was in the military, and learned my way around firearms, and then kind of pursued firearms myself, and then put myself in a situation where I could go hunting. I kind of made friends with the right people that, yeah, that's right. My first deer that I shot was last year, and it was a doe. I had antlerless permit, so I was all legal. You were legal, Yep, yeah. But good for you. Didn't know how to feel dressed a deer, my buddy's out there, you know, field dressing it for me, we're dragging

Jeff Barron 37:25
it out. You know, you don't

Jeremy Perkins 37:26
have to do that. Yeah, yeah, yep. Well, you gotta teach me that. But what was interesting is, is, then I realized to myself, like, you know, I need to bring my son along on all this stuff and and Luke needs to learn. I'm, I'm way behind the times, right? Like, there's a lot of knowledge that I need to learn that I probably won't learn in my lifetime, that if we can get little man on it, right, he's gonna have this wealth of knowledge. So now we're doing all this stuff with my son, and he is enthralled with you with, like, that whole he's watching YouTube videos of how to, you know, work with bears and moose, and you name it, right? He's ready. And my father came up to me and go, he apologized. He goes, I am absolutely thrilled that you're doing this with your son. He goes, I didn't realize it. I didn't know it. Like, and I'm like, it's not your fault. But like, this is, this is this was a father to son moment probably four months ago, over a couple of beers, and he's like, what you're doing with your son, pulling him out of school every now and again to go sit in the woods. And I mean, it's just it's changed his trajectory, right? And now I'm at the point where I don't even care if I carry a rifle, I'm out there for him. And I also had a friend that that was like, Oh, they out there shooting for sport. And I could say, honestly, we're not. No, I went out and I breasted that Turkey that my son shot. Yeah, my mom made pea soup

Jeff Barron 38:51
with it. Pea soup. Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah,

Jeremy Perkins 38:55
she put peas and turkeys all that together. I ate it. It was my son's first turkey. My son doesn't eat soup, so he didn't eat his first turkey. But, I mean, he's eight, so it is what it is. My dad almost cracked the tooth off of off some shot, but it was, it

Jeff Barron 39:11
actually brought our boarding,

Jeremy Perkins 39:12
yeah, it brought our whole family together even, even tighter, right? You know, my mom's out there looking at the deer, or, sorry, deer, looking at the turkey, going, Luke, tell me about it. Every time he tells a story, it's the same story, yeah, and it's, I'm like, I'm floored by it. His teacher's got a picture of his turkey. Everybody's got a

Jeff Barron 39:32
picture. That is what it's about. It's all it's about, right?

Jeremy Perkins 39:35
And and again, if you do the right things, right, like, I do, like, what you guys are doing, that, if you're not going to use the fish, you know, put it back, and somebody else can enjoy that moment. Yeah? So, you know, wildlife conservation,

Jeff Barron 39:48
all of that exactly what we're doing, yeah, that's what

Jeremy Perkins 39:51
hunters do. Keep going into that more. Yeah. Well, I was talking with producer Mac about this not too long ago, about. A lot of people talk about conservation in different ways, and a lot of people don't realize that our hunting and fishing permits. A lot of that goes back to preservation, right? Funding it. Yeah, yeah. 100% not only that, but we're also doing wildlife management right? So down in South Carolina, where my where my in laws live. They they're overrun by deer, right? And I said to him, I go, Well, who manages this? Like, people come in here and bow, and they're, they're in a dense community, and they're like, there's no hunting in here. People come in at night to mitigate the population. And I'm like, Well, there's a whole bunch of us,

Jeff Barron 40:36
yeah, that would do it, that would do it, yeah, and and eat the meat, and do all that stuff, be thankful to do it. Yeah, I don't

Jeremy Perkins 40:45
think people realize.

Jeff Barron 40:46
They don't. They don't. They see it as, yeah, they see it as is, you know, evil, yeah. And I don't, I don't understand it, but they do. But if you do not control the population of any species, it's going to overpopulate. If you don't have something, you know, they're introduced, essentially, they'll all disease and die, yeah, and then you're gonna lose them all, like we did. I mean, Alabama had zero deer. We had to move deer from Texas into here in the 40s and 50s, because there was no deer left, because they called a disease. They were overpopulated and died out. Yeah, it was

Jeremy Perkins 41:17
the same up north. I think they reintroduc turkeys in the 70s and the 70s and the 80s and and now, now it's overrun, because there's no hunters.

Jeff Barron 41:26
Well, this is what we're hoping that this will help all this social media and all this podcast. I mean, you know, get get kids into it

Hannah Barron 41:34
nice, passing it on to the next generation.

Jeff Barron 41:36
It's just like you you're just getting started your first year, last year. Yeah, you're getting more enjoyment out of seeing your boy out there doing that's the same way it is with that's the way it's supposed to

Jeremy Perkins 41:46
be, and it's and it's funny, because I don't want to label my kid in any way, shape or form, but my son is very energetic. Kid, right? In a movie in a movie theater, he's upside down in the chair, like, yeah, the kid can't sit still. Yeah, my wife didn't believe me that we sat in a deer blind for eight hours. Y'all said for eight hours. Eight hours.

Jeff Barron 42:06
Listen, his

Jeremy Perkins 42:07
kids ain't no way. He brought a book and read it cover to cover.

Jeff Barron 42:11
So he actually got smarter while he was

Jeremy Perkins 42:16
hunting on what the substance of the book? You're

Hannah Barron 42:23
so full of it. Used to read to me when I was little. It

Jeremy Perkins 42:27
was wild. Then I took my daughter with me. So now three of us are in this two man blind, right? Luke's asleep, right? Because it's four o'clock in the morning and we're out. We're out there before daybreak, and he hadn't started to book yet. No answer, no, no, that's midday, but Lucy's out there. So she she's hysterical, because we do. She's, like, a lot of cooking stuff, right? Yeah, so buddy of mine from the army procured some Mrs. So she's out there. She's like, Dad, you want some coffee? So she's making coffee. Oh, you know, it's all shaking it up and whatever, I was like, Oh, this is great. I'm out there eating rations. But it became so, so much of a so much of a thing, that now my wife is like, Y'all are having such a good time up. There she go. No, she's getting her 100 safety license. There you go, Dude, I didn't realize, like, how much I was doing for my family by just getting involved in the sport. We can't even call it a sport, because it's it's almost subsistence living, it's wildlife management, conservation, you name

Hannah Barron 43:32
it, but we built our whole life around it. You can look at this house and tell how much it means to us.

Jeff Barron 43:36
Yeah, I grew up first pork chop store bought pork chop I ever saw was nine years old. Really, we raised everything, killed everything, you know, we we ate out of the woods, or we raised it. And I saw a pork chop with the bone in and I said, Mom, what is that? Because we didn't have a meat saw, so we were boning everything out and, you know, cutting them, cutting it in the States, you know. So what's that? She said, that's a pork chops, bone in it, you know, only things got us, bone in it, squirrel leg or something. It don't look like a squirrel leg. Squirrel egg to me. Pork Chop, store bought pork chop. Well, and that's actually true though. I mean, just didn't know

Jeremy Perkins 44:09
what it was. That's funny, because, again, I grew up in the suburbs, so it was, we see I'm glad you're getting it now, yeah, but I'm going backwards in time, and I love it, right? We got the farm. We're now raising pigs. We we were raising goats at the time, but realize they're useless,

Jeff Barron 44:25
but you can eat them too. Yeah,

Jeremy Perkins 44:27
we had milk goats. And, yeah, it's a whole long story. Yeah, I can. But you know, now we're, you know, egg crisis that didn't bother us, not sure we do. My next door neighbor had more eggs for to pickle than than he wanted, right? You and I was like, holy, like, this is a real thing, yeah, so, but yeah, no, I mean, now, now our freezer is full of pork on our own. You know, believe it or not, our butcher actually, uh, keeps the bones in. So, yeah,

Jeff Barron 44:54
well, he's got a meat so, yeah, he's got a little bit more money. Yeah, we had enough, but we were. Chipping rocks.

Jeff Barron 45:02
What are you on about? She's laughing. I'm laughing at him. We was poor, but we wasn't poor. We had enough. He's snapping out rocks for cut them steaks that we they wasn't that bad, though. Look at Jeremy thinking, Yeah,

Jeremy Perkins 45:19
you got me all up. All right, let's talk about the best adventure that you've been on.

Jeff Barron 45:29
Oh, I know which one it is, yeah, but I'm gonna let her tell the story. She can tell the story. Well, it was her story anyway. I was just there. I didn't even hunt. I was with her. Yeah, she knows which one. Go ahead. I'm sorry, I'll shut up. Go ahead.

Hannah Barron 45:43
Oh, that elk, right there, the euro on the right. Yeah, that elk. That is my first elk with a bow. It took 15 days walking 10 to 15 miles a day of up and down

Jeremy Perkins 45:56
mountains. And is that your first time ever shooting

Hannah Barron 45:59
an elk? No, that, but that was the first one with the bow, which makes it 4 million times harder, yeah, because I'd already killed that one, and that one with a rifle, and nothing compared to

Jeremy Perkins 46:10
so what was, what was, what was special about that, what was challenging about that took

Hannah Barron 46:13
15 days that walking 10 to 15 miles, close call After close call, every Bull had 50 cows with them. And trying to get past that many eyeballs and that many noses to get close enough to make a shot with a bow was tough. Where'd you take it Idaho, on our buddy John make offs place.

Jeremy Perkins 46:33
That's crazy. And then that was, that was unbelievable. So how do you pack something out

Hannah Barron 46:39
like that? That one was an easy pack out, yeah, but

Hannah Barron 46:41
what was the hardest one? Oh, let me

Hannah Barron 46:45
the hardest one has not been, no, that one was horseback,

Jeff Barron 46:49
I know. But that one, so this one was an easy one. Yeah, that one's easy.

Jeremy Perkins 46:57
I've never seen a black coyote before. Yeah, we got I had no idea what

Jeff Barron 47:01
that was. Well, we got several. Yeah, he's

Hannah Barron 47:03
killed a bunch, but my hardest pack out was Hell's Canyon, a bull I killed. He's not in here yet. He's still getting mounted, but packed out the head and the cape. I don't know how much it weighed, and the pack didn't fit me, so I had to wrap like a jacket around my waist, and buckled my backpack so that it would fit, and packed it out horns down because I was going straight uphill. But the bad part about that is I'm so short that I can't side hill, because every time I would the it'll push you off the mountain the rack, and it was no ship, it'll push you off the dirt. Was just caving in in front of me. I was grabbing the grass in front of me trying to climb up that dadgum Hill. That was my hardest one. The other one was man, yeah,

Jeff Barron 47:51
man. So Okay, I gotta piss like a Russian race horse. I will

Jeremy Perkins 47:55
tell you what. This was a fantastic podcast, and I've known you guys for a little while now, and you guys have been unbelievably supportive and just down to earth individuals. Honestly, I feel like we've been friends for a long time. I mean, get along with you guys well, and I really enjoy what you guys are doing, and all of the stuff that you got out on social media is great. But, you know, for people who truly enjoy it like it means a lot, it really does. I mean, it's inspired my wife to post more. It's not again for her, it's not for the views. It's more to take pride in the mundane tasks that you're doing, right? It's great to showcase old world views, stuff that we've forgotten, passing on generation to generation knowledge. That's what's lost. It's 100% what's lost. And, you know, I thank you guys for coming on this podcast. I do want to leave it up to you guys. The floor is yours to how do you get in contact with you? You know, where do we find you and and where can you guys share your information to the new generation for those that are listening.

Hannah Barron 49:01
So I've got Instagram, Snapchat and tick tock. Those are all Hannah Barron 96 Facebook is Hannah Baron outdoors, and my YouTube is just Hannah Baron. And also, if they don't have, I don't know, I'm not going to get into that with all the fake accounts, but that's kind of a whole, that's a whole nother podcast, but those

Jeremy Perkins 49:24
channels are the only channels. Yeah, that's the only ones. And then Jeff, what's your only fans account? Oh, man,

Jeff Barron 49:34
let me tell you why you bring that up.

Jeremy Perkins 49:38
He's on fee finder, all right,

Jeff Barron 49:40
man, I've been trying to keep that a secret around here. Secret. No, but

Jeremy Perkins 49:43
anyway, Jeff 70

Jeff Barron 49:45
on Instagram, and what's mine on Facebook,

Hannah Barron 49:47
is Jeff Barron on Facebook, Jeff Barron on YouTube, and Jeff Barron 70 on Instagram.

Jeremy Perkins 49:53
She's the tech. Was that hard to remember.

Jeff Barron 49:55
Well, I didn't know if it had a 70 or I don't know what it's got behind. It, Mike, don't be laughing. It's not that fun. You know, look, I had a flip phone. We started this stuff. So hey

Jeremy Perkins 50:07
dude, well, that's the end of the podcast. I appreciate y'all for listening.

Hannah Barron 50:11
Appreciate y'all, appreciate y'all.