To kick off season 4, we’re back with Maggie Rogosienski, aka Electric Mags. Back home in Wisconsin by way North Carolina, Maggie is working as an electrician in Milwaukee. Not only is she moving swiftly through the ranks of her trade, but she has grown a following of almost 14,000 on her Instagram where she talks tools, the trades, and being a mom. Listen in as Jeremy and Eric talk with Maggie about switching careers, being part of a union, and being a woman in what is largely a male-dominated industry.
Eric Girouard 0:00
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Jeremy Perkins 0:30
This is Jeremy and Eric here with bucket talk powered by Braun. This week is the beginning of season four. We have electric mags, also known as Maggie, and we're gonna dive right into it before we do, Eric.
Eric Girouard 0:43
Awesome. Awesome. So super pumped kick Season Four off. This has been what we've been doing this for two years now Jeremy, so we've had the high highs where we started out in your basement garage, pre-COVID Yeah, the good old days. And then the low lows where we were remote by ourselves learned in that game, which we kind of actually got used to. And now we're back. You and I are in person and it just keeps getting better and better and stronger and stronger. And we're shaping the show up and going to be investing a lot more money into the show and in the platform this year. So super, super pumped.
Jeremy Perkins 1:20
Yeah, New Year New us again, always reinventing always, always doing new things. And you know, I can't wait to get down with these new guests. We're trying to get deeper into what they do. Oh, no, I'm excited.
Eric Girouard 1:35
Sweet. All right, let's dig in.
Jeremy Perkins 1:37
Alright, so today we're here with Maggie Rogosienski. She goes by the Instagram handle @electric.mags. She is a commercial electrician, Maggie. Welcome.
Maggie Rogosienski 1:47
Thank you guys. Thank you. I'm glad that we have finally combined the schedule to meet trust me every day is a reminder I'm telling you. Random right now, I usually end up staying in to them long into the night when I finally decided I probably have to leave them because they're so damn room. And I am such a I mean, I hate Wisconsin. So I'll stay in anything that just keeps me warm. But no, thank you.
Jeremy Perkins 2:16
No, that's awesome. So you are our season opener. And this is awesome. We're very happy to have you on the podcast. And we want to get a little insight on what you do, where you came from. So let's go back as far as you know you want to but let's get into who Maggie is and how she got here.
Maggie Rogosienski 2:35
Ah, okay, well, try to keep this concise. Obviously, the place where I'm here talking to you is 180 from where I started in my career, pretty much grew up in a traditional household expectation. You go to college, you do whatever, you know, maximize the income sort of thing. I always from the time I was a third grader. I wanted to be a neurosurgeon, believe it or not. I don't know. But so I went to undergrad here in Wisconsin in the small university Lawrence University and I was pre med graduated. And I did some research at Madison. And you know, I still at that point, didn't know exactly what capacity I wanted to be in. But I did pharmaceuticals I work for big pharma luckily got out of that. It was a very miserable experience. From that point on I left Milwaukee I was sick of the cold and went down to North Carolina, where I wanted to go to med school. So I spent a year got my personal training certification and worked in a gym and I just fell in love with. For one I needed to just let it all hang out. And you know, I was so wired from school and all the heavy duty studying and stuff getting ready for those MCATs that yeah, I just decided I wanted to live my life a little bit longer before I took on to the next. You know, headache of med school.
Yeah, so absolutely. I mean 20 to 23 years old. So I loved it. I was completely autonomous. I started my first business on there was doing in home training and moved back up to Wisconsin. I'm not one for homesickness, but I you know, your family starts to change and my brother got engaged, I'm super close to him. My other friends were all getting, you know, moving into the next phase of their life. And so I moved back and I was close to my grandfather. My grandfather actually passed away I got to Ohio and I I got the call and it was heartbreaking. So I knew I was moving at home for the right reasons and stuff to be back with fam but got back here started another personal training business. I basically subcontracted doing that at a golf club, which was nice plus I had my own home stuff but then there was a couple of years in I got introduced to CrossFit and USA weightlifting. And so I went in, I had the opportunity to open up my own gym. So I got certified as a crossfit coach. And then I was also I went to USA weightlifting and got certified as a club coach, and did that for four years. And then 2017 rolls around, actually was 2016. And here's the gruesome part of this. But yeah, I got divorce the normal, unfortunate part of life. And 18 months later, I was actually having to shut my doors of the business, because I did get a restraining order against my landlord. So yeah, I mean, we're talking about (???) I'm just a roll feeling at the top of my game. And all of a sudden, big, big, you know, Pitfall, but you know, is every rock bottom there is absolutely a way out. And so I mean, that I took the year off, my son was only four at the time. So I took some time with him. And I had to restart it. I mean, I had to retool my doll because I didn't know what to do. You know, I hadn't planned for anything else, then at that point, other than just owning my gym. And so my brother, who was actually also in the trade as he's a year ahead of me in our apprenticeship, but he was working for a company and we both came to the point where our jobs were like, he was either going to either move to Colorado, possibly, or they just bought this new place by the Mississippi. And so we both were like, What the heck are we gonna do a different plan? What are you going to do? Because if you do it, I guess I'll do it. This is how we operated several conversations like, Oh, we're so miserable. We gotta figure it out. But our cousin is a steam fitter. And he was like, You guys think about the electrical trade because the trades are just they're such demand. There's so much demand and, and I was like, Are you kidding me? I can't put a drywall anchor in the state of my life. It turns into a toggle bolt in two seconds.
Unknown Speaker 7:01
Maggie Rogosienski 7:05
My brother at least ahead it's somewhat of a background. He didn't you know, of course in CNC machining in high school, because he was a non traditional student, he went back. First, I 21 figured he was going to finally take on college. And so he was a little older. He's four years older than me, but so he got into the apprenticeship. And then I followed a year later on, and that is literally what made my decision. I was like, okay, big, bro. Let's do this. And here we are today. And I mean, this has been the best experience of my life I never would have ever been, I seriously say I would have never have seen myself in the capacity in life I am I, you could never have paid me enough to believe I would actually be here talking to you about being in construction, but I in fits perfectly with, you know what I feel like my personality is I'm pretty, pretty much of a tomboy, got two brothers that beat the hell out of me. And so I've learned to be humble, and also just, you know, stand my ground. But yeah, and that is how I got to where I got today.
Jeremy Perkins 8:10
That's awesome. You love being a commercial electrician, you love what you do on a day to day?
Maggie Rogosienski 8:14
Jeremy Perkins 8:16
And is it? Is it for the love of the game? Or is it? You know, it was a better opportunity? How do you base your love for the whole picture there
Maggie Rogosienski 8:24
I guess I learned through this gonna sound sort of cliche, but when you get older, you sort of throw the insecurities of life out the window, and you just accept who you are and what you're bad at and what you're good. Yeah, you do what you can so I mean, a couple of different things. So the benefits of joining the union versus and again, I I'm not here to argue either side, so it doesn't matter. What works for you some people with lifelong families that, you know, generational, are union or non union, that's where they stayed because they would never go against her heart, you know, it's easier to go with the grain. And for me, it was like, I got a union apprenticeship, their benefits and I wouldn't look back and I don't question if it would have been a better decision to go the opposite route, you know, go non union, but it doesn't matter. Because it's all going to get me to where I want to be someday, which is going to get me venture Neiman's card, and it just worked for me to do this. And I've had an awesome experience with my union, but that's me.
Jeremy Perkins 9:28
Are you in a good union?
Maggie Rogosienski 9:31
Know, what do I really know, you know, I will not Chicago. I mean, I feel like Chicago, everything in here, but Chicago union, they are just Bulldogs so that you don't mess with Chicago electrician, you know, and then Milwaukee is sort of the i don't know i nor do I really try to get involved in that city. I don't have the time to deal with the politics and and you know, that's just not my role as an apprentice. I'm still working so much. And I tried to just let the people who are in those positions deal with those positions. And me, as long as I'm working, and I've seen the benefit of being in a union. And that's me. But I had to get to the point where I asked the union, to find me a good contractor to make sure that I was with somebody that was going to pan out because I spent the first 20 months on a specialty division of electrical, which is building automation, and COVID hit and then everything at that, like the contractor, I was at sort of the fell apart, and they didn't have a ton of work. So it was like, I already know, last 2022 months of my apprenticeship, I have to ask, I have to demand to get into the hours that I need. Because at the end of the five years, they don't care what you did or didn't do. If you're they're sitting there, they're expecting a test, they're expecting you to be called a journeyman and to elite, you know what I mean? So like, Yeah, I had to get aggressive. And I saw the benefit of being able to call up the director of our program and say, Listen, I need better and I got better. So you know, if you don't take it, if you don't go for it, you're not going to see the benefit. You can sit there and whine to behind closed doors, but that does nothing for you. So if you're not asking the union to do their job, if you feel like you're not getting what you need, well, then they don't know that. Yeah, I mean, their jobs. And
Jeremy Perkins 11:34
so my brother in law was in the same situation, he was in the carpenters union. Now here, he was fortunate enough to get in, he was super, super pumped about it. And then, you know, he was just laid off. And it was a host of reasons. And it was it had nothing to do with the strength of the Union. But there was just so many highs and lows, that he wanted a little more consistency. So he ended up having to do the same thing he had to push. And he ended up getting with a different contractor. Same deal. And you know, he was much happier, he ultimately ended up going out on his own. But yeah, it was the same thing. Like if you don't have the, I guess, inner fortitude to push for something better than you can get lost in the masses.
Maggie Rogosienski 12:11
Absolutely. Because who's gonna know that you don't like where you're at, if you're not complaining about it? Right, right. And I'm not trying to sit here either as a few and some people are like, Well, do you feel like you just got a special treatment? Because you're a female? I don't know. But that doesn't even matter. At this point. Gender has nothing to do with the fact that I'm sitting in the same union as everybody else. And we all have the same rights and responsibilities to maintain and hold. And so just because I asked for it, you know, like, no, that sucks for anybody who did it. But that's, you know, whether boy or girl, it does not matter.
Eric Girouard 12:48
No, no, I mean, everyone's you know, I always say you show it played your unfair advantages. And it doesn't matter if that's how you got it or not, doesn't really matter. You should be fair, where you ride that as hard as you can. And vice versa. You know, you're fighting a hard battle already, you know, you should get ready ask for at least push for it.
Maggie Rogosienski 13:04
Yeah, I mean, my Steam fitter cousin told me he had nine different contractors in one year. And that's a dude, who was just demanding what he needed in order to support his family. And that's had a resounding effect on my attitude is just, there's a lot of contractors, not everyone's going to be a good fit. Not everyone's got the same experiences coming in with their like, you know, pre we call construction wireman. So CWS is yours, sort of a pre apprentice, not everybody has the opportunity to have the same, you know, experiences with that. And all different contractors have different goals for their businesses, you might not have a good fit for your interests. I mean, that's the nice thing about it. Now, I don't want to jump anymore, I'm happy, I'm really happy with the contractor I'm at, there's a great open communication. And you know, I felt comfortable bringing a commercial account of a good friend of mine to them for them to benefit feeling isn't it, you know, just to be able to because I feel confident that they've got my dad they've taken me on and and I feel appreciated, and I trust them that they would take care of you know, a friend so
Jeremy Perkins 14:15
that was the hard part in my trade I had worked for a shop prior to the shop that I was at and that couldn't handle all the vehicles that I would recommend it would go to somebody else or you know, there would be something with the owner or whatever and I didn't feel confident recommend our business to some of my friends and family and it made me feel bad because it had nothing to do with me personally but it had everything to do with the organization that I was at and it was a shitty feeling when a family member comes in ask you and says hey, you know you work on cars can I bring my car by your shop and I'm like, hey really, it's not really a good fit for you, you know, you should take it here or or whatever and, and it's, you know, to be able to take pride in what you do. But not only that, but be able to take pride in your employer and be able to align with all I mean, that's that's huge. I mean, that's a
Eric Girouard 15:02
question, why'd you take my money for that transmission?
Maggie Rogosienski 15:08
Mechanic I will pay for unfortunately, I feel like no matter where I go, I'm getting screwed. Well, so that's
Jeremy Perkins 15:15
what that will
Maggie Rogosienski 15:19
do. My check is no,
Jeremy Perkins 15:25
no, no, no, but you do bring up a valid point engine Shut up in your head to about
Maggie Rogosienski 15:31
every single time I got to get an oil change, I show up at my jeep. And I'm just like a common break from work. And I just tried to look like I'm actually, like, curious about what they're doing in my car, but I really don't care.
Jeremy Perkins 15:43
Well. That's the thing. I mean, it spans all trades, because, you know, everybody thinks that when you have a service done, you're being taken for a ride. And, yeah, no, they gotta put confidence in you. And that's kind of what I'm trying to change is the fact that like, there's a good group of people, we need to empower the trades and the trades need to, you know, kind of come up in the fact that, like, we're not shitbag people anymore. You know what I mean? Like, yes. And we want to try to weed those bad eggs out. And I know that there's still people out there that it really does bother me. But it's definitely I hear it all the time. Like, guys, girls that come up to me, and they're like, you know, I know nothing about my car. And I think so and so's taking advantage of me. And I'm like, This is terrible. This doesn't happen in any other, you know, sector, it only happens with the trades. I feel like we need to kind of change that.
Maggie Rogosienski 16:35
I agree. When I was coming into this, there were questions about what were your expectations of what it would be like so one of the first times I got interviewed was, what are the stereotypes that you're expecting to show up? And it's like, I kind of like roll with that. That's my jam to be around the rough and tough people I did doesn't bother me. It's not offensive. You know, the whole, you know, what were my stereotypes? Well, that they weren't in shower. The guys are, you know, just pigs, whatever. But is that true? Yeah, it's not, it really isn't to be honest with you. I mean, I would say that my girlfriends and I probably have worse smiles on us, certainly not in industry for everybody, but that any industry is everybody's Kelud, either, you know. So you just have to find what fits your personality, your interest, but you don't come into an industry and be like, well, I'm going to change the entire outlook, I'm expecting better. I don't want to be unproductive in my job, because you've made it to be an unhealthy environment, because you don't get like the 100 signs that I'm sending you to shut the fuck up and leave me alone. But at the same time, can I take some misogyny? Yeah, that doesn't bother me. I'm not here. You're just chatter, chatter. You're just bored with her life? And that's fine. But at some point, yes, you have to just sort of be like, dude, remove the fucking wall and whatever. But at the same time, that's not the only stereotype that I'm ever worried about. In fact, it's been more the opposite of I felt we've hyper sensitized everybody that it's even harder for me to get guys to say, Hi, good morning, something that you would like to just make it a comfortable environment, because you have been drilled with don't sexually harass or, you know, like that, and I get it. I do I get it. But so I mean, is there a fine line? Is there a balance? Is it ever going to be a happy medium, I don't know. It bothers me that it's almost made it so awkward sometimes, to even be on a job site, where I feel like I'm an outcast, because you've made them feel like they can't say anything, or I'm going to just go straight to the, you know, general or whatever.
Jeremy Perkins 18:51
And that's what's that's what's good about, you know, finally finding your spot and finding a company that you're good with. The last shop that I was at, we were able to jive, we had males and females and we were able to have normal conversations. And if you said something that was a little off color that you know, not in a bad way but just didn't come out right. You know, nobody was screaming HR that yeah, that you know, you're screwed up. So you're right I mean, it is a tough world to be in nowadays that like you have to watch everything that's coming out of your mouth and male and female. I mean, it's definitely a different time and the trains are trying to figure it out because they're rough and tumble crew and, and their mouths usually get them in trouble.
Maggie Rogosienski 19:34
You don't go into other relationships and try to change people you either come into this knowing okay, this is sort of what I'm expecting. But that shouldn't be the focus. Your focus is to do your job it's to perform tasks not to you don't want to be some psychologists you don't want to be there like shoulder to cry on. I'm not here to be friends where I'm going out for drinks after work a there's no other girl on my crew. So I mean, I'm only going out with guys and I don't want their reputation, nor do I have the energy to drink. Like they probably can. But I, you know, like, did we go out? I mean, like, Have I gone out for drinks with my crew? Absolutely. Because there's camaraderie that still is important, yes. But you can find a good balance as to what is, I mean, if you don't want to be seen as like the social butterfly, and you know, just here for the social life, you know, activities, then you, then that's up to you to make sure that you don't do that. But you can't ruin your coworker relationships. Again, no different than any office job or anything else. So I try to ignore all those stereotypes and just I'm here to be a professional to learn my job to take care of my family. And that's my focus. I'm not here for
Jeremy Perkins 20:51
highlighting way there. Yeah. Family work. I mean, that's, that's where it's at. So
Maggie Rogosienski 20:58
I'm also here to bust my ass. And I know that as a woman, I got to prove that I'm not here to just take it easy. And let the guys you know, pick up the work, you know, whether or not they choose to do more, whatever. But I never said no. Or, Oh, I can't handle that before. I've actually busted my ass to try to do something. But I'm also conscious of I'm a woman, I understand that I am not as strong as males. Not every one of them. But I am not going to sit here and use that sort of gender strength.
Yeah, exactly. Because I want to be smart. I want to do my job for a long time. I don't want to be injured just to prove a point. That's it's a maturity standpoint. Yeah, we got wiser. Yeah, the 21 year old ones chose to hog up like a bunch of material, go for it. I don't care. I'm gonna pick up all the pieces.
Jeremy Perkins 21:53
Speaking of which, so I caught a post the other day that you were just covered in mud. Well, I go walk me through how a commercial electrician was just up to your knees. You're talking about my boots and everything. I mean, I figured you guys were in these cozy little buildings running wires conduit, all that stuff. I mean,
Eric Girouard 22:13
she's not like you mechanics and nice.
Maggie Rogosienski 22:16
Yeah, we don't have little garages underneath the garages so that you have nothing to worry about. You get to your face a little bit. You're fine. Yeah, I mean, weather conditions were built I, the crew that I was on, which I've only been off this week, really. But we've been building this really large gas station and we have been hit with some just unbelievable precipitation. And so they don't care if it's raining that you came me they're not gonna let you go home because you didn't bring a rain suit. That was your is stupid fall to not remember, you know, bring something and of course, our foreman has like a whole rain suit. And here we are just all soaking wet. Like you knew this was coming and then you didn't. That's like yeah, they're like, Well, I'm dry. I was like, Screw it. I'm fine. I've got to Rinko but that was about it. I checked the weather every single day or my car looks like a frickin closet because I just will never feel confident and I have enough clothes. But yeah, it just, it's muddy. But the job goes on. And that was my day. I was like, Well, Brian, this is it. We're gonna test you out. Because how else can I test the right you know? I hate doing product reviews when it's like okay, well we're gonna do this free package back so we know everything's gonna look perfect when you do it on camera. No, I want to like hold your tool I want to know your tool. I want to know how I treat it in the field for a while and see put it through the wringer. Because if you really want me to stand up behind something, I don't want to be like the masses that it's like, everybody's talking about this mutual great, but you know, I've owned something for now a year and now it's not really great. So now what do I do? Okay, I don't have time to go back and edit anything. It's like just give me a little bit of time so I had the opportunity to throw you guys in and I was in frickin muddy puddles in an hour all day long and it was incredible how and Wisconsin socks because we've got this complete shit. Because it you the second you step on right? You don't even have you have like half the earth plus you have all of the stones all the other crap that's rolling around. You're just like on six inches of gels, mud and, and racks, whatever, but my feet were bone dry. So kudos to you guys. That was hell yeah, that was a I cannot believe that. That's why I did this live review of that thing because then you can run it in my mind.
Eric Girouard 24:50
Are there times where it's so shocking, though that you have to shut down for the day where it's like alright, we cannot work today or or is that not really the case? non western each other,
Maggie Rogosienski 25:01
like what can we do? Maybe we can do something else, or we try to like, see, like, we'll wait it out a little bit. Otherwise, it's like, well, where's your green gear life, you know, there's always an option to work now. Weather the cold weather, I got the big time. You know, last week I just got so sick part of is because we have this terrible situation with you know, the job is just not running where it should be. And we don't have warm conditions to be in. So whether we're under in a building or outside, I'm in like negative degrees, they're reasonable. But you know, there's only so much I can look like the kid from you know, the Christmas story and a marshmallow. But I can't at that point even do much. Because I'm so cold. What I like about your insulation in the boot, and you have the option of making it puffier inside are more, you know, more insulated or less insulated gives me more room. But I know friends, guys, I can't wear four pairs of socks in this boot. Yeah, no shit, reasonable, you know what I mean? Like that. But so it's like, well, I can't wear more clothes to make this any better of a situation I got a decent people who aren't gonna, you know, expect us to get frostbite in your nothing or whatever. But
Jeremy Perkins 26:19
sure you're done with your apprenticeship.
Maggie Rogosienski 26:20
I got two and a half more years in Wisconsin, we have to have 1000 hours in the field to be able to sit for the state test. But then in the union, you still have to complete all five years of school, a lot of apprentices will still take the test after their eight, out 1000 hours. And then they'll set for like less than a year in the apprenticeship just until they ride out the school to formally be you know, recognized by the union as as journeyman. But
Jeremy Perkins 26:49
so. So where so where would you go from there? I want to see, you know, like, so what is your gonna be the next step for Maggie.
Maggie Rogosienski 26:57
I just actually had this conversation, I really resolved to be just the apprentice and take a step out of any other role when I came into this apprenticeship. And I didn't want to look forward. Because for one, this field is so dynamic. And there's so many options to where this could go. That I don't even know everything yet. Right? So I mean, not making a very informed decision, because I still don't know what I can be with this card. Right? Nor does it I mean, who knows, I could go off and started another career choice or whatever. But I am starting to think, Okay, I'm getting edge, I miss the business side, I think that's what I really like about the Instagram and working with, you know, awesome people like yourselves and being able to have a different, you know, some sort of experience to talk about because I'm in the field, I'm, I'm the one the one who's lost, you know, I can't teach anybody anything. Because I'm still learning, I certainly would not expect myself to turn around and start my own business because this is a bigger beast, you know, there's a lot more to understand in the contractor side. But
Eric Girouard 28:08
not every coming of a phenom for you know, for not only the trades empowering that female generation, which is booming, bigger than ever in the trades, but also receive the stuff you're doing the client tools, which is like the most premier, you know, Legacy tool brand in the industry, in your trades.
Jeremy Perkins 28:26
From a young person's perspective, your journey through the apprenticeship program carries its weight. I mean, there's a lot of people that look look at that journey and say that this is a daunting task. How am I going to do a five year apprenticeship. And, you know, that was kind of kid
Maggie Rogosienski 28:43
with a kid yourself. I mean, I'm still I got my ex husband, and I have a great relationship, but it's still a lot of work to be able to still have a child and go to school at night work a 40 hour, there's no I think about how I would have handled this in college and there's It blows my mind but this is the survive and thrive adaptation sort of thing. There's nothing that will stop me after getting myself out of the where I was mentally, and having PTSD from a terrible situation never wanted to be in and, and going through that divorce you think of like how miserable I was to where I am today. I mean, like, when you start to build your life, and you own every frickin success that you have. It is mind blowing, where you start to feel like okay, I'm going to take a different approach because I'm more mature and I'm not just going to make spontaneous decisions
Jeremy Perkins 29:41
was it was funny because I'm actually back in school. I got two young children, me and my wife started a farm up in Maine. And it's just you realize that like, a you have no time but b You just got to get on it. There's there's no excuses. There's no time off. They're, you know, I look at my children and I say, hey, you know what I'm doing this for you. Are you doing for yourself too, but your priorities are different.
Maggie Rogosienski 30:08
Absolutely right. Like, oh, I'm not gonna sit there and watch the packer game or because beggars are the best because you probably have lost to us that how many times so? Don't hate on Roger. Basket
Jeremy Perkins 30:22
Maggie Rogosienski 30:23
Yeah, okay, we're gonna move. Right, but the junk cheese in the cold, they are morons. I'm like, I'm glad I don't have to go to a game. It's no, no, no, no, um, but you have to do what you have to do. And honestly, if you get into that mindset, you're like, I can do this. We are so much more capable mentally of more than what we've ever really give ourselves credit for. But unless you're trying to do better and to ask for more out of your life, then you are going to stay complacent and scared. And that's part of where people become the Steve Jobs and the Bill Gates and the and the brunt work. We're in the electric maze. I am not letting anybody slow me down. I say yes. To all my opportunities within reason. Yeah. And, and I have yet to see that blow up in my face. Because I've created a path of just good potential. But you have to maintain a certain ego, you have to maintain a certain perspective, you, you know, I'm not out there. I'm not showing off my tits on my Instagram or anything like that. That's not how I want my reputation to ever be. And I know that Klein Tools is someone who would probably be like, you know, that's not who we want to represent. Right? So why am I going to already shoot myself in the foot just to add an extra follower who's going to turn around and unfollow me tomorrow? Then the followers the unfollow, I mean, like followers are not really what I'm looking for. You can't reinvent the wheel of electrical. So it's like your perspective. Your personality sells it. But I'm not out here looking. God I don't even know if I want to be a Melbourne hippie chick who's got 150,000 followers and it's like, a lot of drama comes probably with that negativity and you know, I just want to have a community to tap into and that's all I wanted. Yeah, exactly.
Eric Girouard 32:30
I'm sure you get a little bit of the bullshit around the edges, but everyone's pretty you know, we know Barry down in Connecticut and what's like your biggest fan teaberry electric TV? Yeah, so So yeah, they're exactly so you've got a lot of people that are like supporters like go Maggie go mags verse, like, you know, the other side of the coin that you just knew laid out there, which is very different.
Maggie Rogosienski 32:55
And those people have been around since I got on day one. Yeah, so that's another thing is I still talk to not maybe regularly but I still hear from a lot of people who I saw, but nobody following them. We've all like gone. done what we feel is okay, I mean, like I honestly don't have more time to dedicate to social media. I mean, I try to do as much as I can, but I don't want it to be burnout situation where I'm doing this to fill a role. Like i That's why I've avoided any sort of working with any companies that wanted a contract that they would be able to tell me how often it's like I don't even I don't even know if I'm gonna make it on some guys. Were like, oh God, we'll try to Instagram or but maybe we'll have to text her because I totally think that's just that it's like I don't know what my day is gonna look like. But anyway, incredible.
Eric Girouard 33:52
Okay, so we always like to lighten it up a little bit towards the end. So
Jeremy Perkins 33:56
speaking of the Packers sucking What do you like to do on your off time?
Maggie Rogosienski 34:00
Yep. About how much the Packers don't suck I'm just kidding. No, I mean I talk as if I'm like the diehard but again, I'm not going to suffer in the cold go and see them either. No, no. Yeah.
Jeremy Perkins 34:16
Football is better at home.
Eric Girouard 34:18
Yes. No, no they're not the beach
Maggie Rogosienski 34:26
right you're the Tom Brady is gone so get over it.
Jeremy Perkins 34:30
We're over it. We don't We know
Maggie Rogosienski 34:33
you're not over. You're taking on No, I'm just kidding. Don't I'm not the Packers but I'm gonna send you some cheese said so. And I better see him anyway. What do we like to do for fun? Sit on my ass and paint walls and watch them dry because it's really nice to be able to just chill to I used to be into furniture rehab in I don't need any more hobbies I'm sure but I liked I, I have the whole Adobe Suite. Oh, like it my head. I pretend like I know what the hell I'm doing. And I like to play with software. I like to play with photos. I'm 100% open, I use filters on everything. And I don't care. Because it's all about fun. I just have fun learning different things with those sort of software's
Eric Girouard 35:25
or kind of a creative in your downtime. Yeah,
Maggie Rogosienski 35:29
right. Exactly. Pinterest made that possible. For me. I feel like it's made me an interior designer, you know, theme, but I'm really not. It's no, but I like watching movie. I just saw Ghostbusters last night. That was cool. Actually, I'm a terrible, Scary Movie person anyway. No, I hate them. So even though maybe scared Believe it or not. Anyway, I like working out. My Fitness has gone to shed a couple of years because I am with a child. Yeah. I mean, you know, you lose time and you you make up. I sound like every other person ever walked into my gym?
Unknown Speaker 36:06
My body has Yeah, absolutely suffered from it. Yeah, I mean differently. For them.
Maggie Rogosienski 36:14
Yeah, so what's your next?
Jeremy Perkins 36:17
Eric Girouard 36:23
Yeah, that's awesome. Any other questions? You got the model? What
Maggie Rogosienski 36:28
do you do? I mean, it sounds like you're pretty open. No, yeah. For me, but think about it. Like, you're not just sitting on your ass. I'm not just sitting on my ass. I didn't want to work jobs. I don't care. I really do bust my butt. There. And most days, I feel like okay, you know, I at least feel like I got to work out in but it's hard job. I mean, it's a really hard job. Quick story. I got asked to be on tough as nails. I don't know if he goes, Oh, yeah, we have that show. So I actually interviewed with Phil, the CBS like, amazing race guy. He and I Skyped in interview, and I was all slotted to go to the first season for that. And the whole premise of that was, you know, can somebody who does something like CrossFit, so it's like an hour workout a day, or whatever? Can they survive doing the type of work that the blue collar people can do for eight hours, who aren't sitting, they're also trying to train, you know, it's kind of a cool concept. But you do, I mean, I at least stay healthy enough. And I still stay in shape enough to do my job. And that's really important. And I have to give myself credit that I'm at least taking care of what I can take care of, to keep myself healthy. You know, so I can last because at some point, I'm not going to have school, so I'll have a little bit more time. My son is nine, I'll have a little bit more flexibility as he gets a little bit more independent too. But you know, when we run around, you know, if I've got a run up and down the field when he's playing soccer Well, and that's what I'll do. I've used to work out a lot more but yeah, I don't know. I just like to chill. I really just like to chill on my off time. Yeah, yeah, listen to music. I missed music concerts. That's, that's the big thing.
Jeremy Perkins 38:18
On that day damper. For for all that. I agree with that. I mean, it was funny. You know, I got a seven and a four year old and I was able to take them up in Maine, they have like an HL team. And I was like, you know, I remember you go into these things all the time. They're the best because they're really geared towards the kids. And, you know, it's not a major professional event that thrown hockey pucks over the glass. My daughter went away with a broken hockey stick the goalie that sit and spray my kid with his water bottle, but it was amazing. So you know, I do miss I miss
Maggie Rogosienski 38:50
COVID anymore, probably.
Jeremy Perkins 38:52
Well, yeah, he did.
Maggie Rogosienski 38:57
They do different. No. A little different. Yeah, that's cool. admirals probably would do that. They don't even know if they're around.
Jeremy Perkins 39:07
But yeah, no, I mean, to be honest with you missing that. I mean, it these, these events are few and far between. And they're definitely becoming harder and harder. And it is hard to raise a child right now. Because it's just just, you know, unprecedented times and
Maggie Rogosienski 39:21
much more work to be honest with you. I mean, we have this awesome summer thing called Summer Fest. I mean, it's the largest music festival in the States. And the for the last two years. We've missed it. I was gonna go see Chappelle. He was here on 911. And I was like, Oh my God, that would just probably blow up is this idea? Yeah, there's so many hoops to jump through that the How would this you're not gonna sit here and test me at the gate. We're like cattle and they're just rounding us into, you know, certain places. And I'm like, you know, what, if it's more than so I don't need to go. And then Chappelle of course gets like COVID Again, and again, I'm not here to talk about cold, I don't give a shit. I let you guys know that. But you know, we're just it's evolution just let it happen. We're all gonna get sick at some point, you know, go eat dirt on your farm, right? That's what I was told. We grew up being dirt. So yeah, and it sucks just to be able to enjoy that stuff because you don't know what kind of politics you're going to also run into. So hopefully we can all get outside and you know. Right exactly we used to we have some awesome venues around here and I'm sad that we can tap into a lot of it because of that crap. And yeah, but
Eric Girouard 40:43
cheers. Cheers to 2022 Onward upward.
Maggie Rogosienski 40:48
Upward I love it.
Eric Girouard 40:52
No, this this has been Maggie, thank you so much. You're someone that we've been wanting to talk to you for a while now you don't think of yourself this way. But you're a pioneer in the trades, obviously, class actually leading the charge for the female generation which is oh my god stop. It's the real deal. Whether you whether you believe it or not the real deal it's I don't
Maggie Rogosienski 41:11
want to believe it. So in your head I appreciate it. And honestly, I feel confident that I've done a good enough job at least retrain you know how to be a respectable individual and not get into the the you know, what, unfortunately, social media can do is ghost you and you can change and I just want to keep an even keel tone and help out any No, and and, you know, keep pressing on with doesn't matter what age you're at, you can do whatever you want. You just got to have the mindset of making the decision and then making that work. And if it doesn't work, it's okay. Because something will yo, yeah, I mean, I hope whoever is listening possibly to this, they
Jeremy Perkins 42:05
probably like 1015 What
Eric Girouard 42:07
am I even doing? There's a lot. So obviously, we're gonna we're gonna tag you on Instagram, right? You always have a lot of folks that want to reach out whether it's you know, whether it's other folks that are looking to get in your trade or ask questions or learn more. But what else should we pump for you? Is it electric mags? And that's where kind of most of that stuff goes through for you. Don't say
Maggie Rogosienski 42:31
the pack, you know? All right, seriously. You motherfuckers I'm sending Aaron Rodgers and his mustache to you tomorrow.
Uh, I mean, I know I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. That's mainly my gym. YouTube. You know, I'm in a place where I'm working on a websites. I'm not telling anybody about it yet. It's still good lord. I did. It's called she's electric may eggs,
Eric Girouard 43:08
Ooh, nice. And
Maggie Rogosienski 43:10
she's electric makes again, you're gonna find that it's nothing there. But you know, and that will be a portal for a lot of like questions about how do you get into the apprenticeship? What my story is answer a lot of the basic questions and then if, you know, people want to know how to study like, it's sort of will be along the lines of a more helpful way. Plus, it's gonna you know, obviously I'll talk about whatever stuff I've got going whenever Phil's base kind of thing, but she's electric megs.
Jeremy Perkins 43:40
Thank you for being our number one guest on the season, and get it all strong.
Born in Wisconsin, Maggie escaped down to North Carolina where she planned on going to medical school but ended up getting into personal training instead. After some time in the South she ventured back home to the midwest and eventually fell in love with Crossfit, enough to open her own gym. She even double-dipped into the fitness world as a USA Weightlifting-certified lifting coach. After some big life changes and a bit of time off, she was inspired to join the trades by her cousin, who works as a seam-fitter. Though she was skeptical at first, she and her brother jumped into electrical work head-on.
“You could never have paid me enough to believe I would actually be here talking to you about being in construction, but it fits perfectly with what I feel like my personality is. I'm pretty, pretty much a tomboy, got two brothers that beat the hell out of me. And so I've learned to be humble, and also just stand my ground.”
A year after her brother joined, Maggie got an apprenticeship with a union in Milwaukee and is now years into her work towards her journeyman’s card. She speaks on her experience as a woman in a male-dominated career:
”I know that as a woman, I got to prove that I'm not here to just take it easy, and let the guys you know, pick up the work, you know, whether or not they choose to do more, whatever. I never said no or, oh, ‘I can't handle that’ before. I've actually busted my ass to try to do something.”
After some uncertainty surrounding the future of the trade and what things would look like during (and after) the pandemic, she has found a place she wants to be for the foreseeable future. Along with her apprenticeship she has found a steady crew of followers on Instagram who keep up with her life in the trades through workplace memes, tool reviews, and her life as a mother.
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