35 min 49 sec | Posted on: 26 October '21

 BRUNT Bucket Talk Podcast 18 with Garrett Davis

Garrett Davis

From building houses to building his own business, Garrett Davis a.k.a. Bub is living the dream. Garrett is the owner and founder of G.W. Davis Company based in Central Maine. Through his 16 years in the carpentry world, he has endured the ups and downs of overcoming a turbulent battle with alcoholism and substance abuse. Now in his mid-thirties, Garrett is four years sober and business is booming for his company. Listen in as Jeremy and Eric sit down with Bub to discuss his early career, building houses in New England, addiction, tool belts, and many other topics in this very special episode of Bucket Talk.

 

Starting in frame work after high school, Garrett learned early on that he enjoyed building things from scratch. Coming from a family of college-educated businessmen and women, he took his own path building houses after deciding that college was not for him. Instead, Garrett started building houses with his uncle for most of his early adulthood.

 

“I was just the guy getting everybody everything except I always wanted to understand what I was handing them.. I knew like if I was going to make a living doing this I wanted to excel I wanted to be better I wanted to have a skill set”

 

On the jobsite, he mostly helped with simple tasks by assisting the other workers before moving into finish work. What set Garrett apart from others was his fascination with the process of building a house. Instead of just working for the sake of paying bills, he wanted to understand the bigger picture.

 

“I feel like a lot of younger kids nowadays do not have that mindset, they're just ready to make a paycheck and they don't give a shit what they're handing, they just want to get through the day and that was not me.”

 

As Garretts career progressed, he began doing jobs that required more detail such as baseboards and door trim, then eventually kitchen, bathroom, and deck renovations. After a falling out with his Uncle, he moved on to working for a company in Portland, ME along with various jobs in between. These experiences laid the foundation for his future work (and eventually, his future home).

 

“I really, I really enjoy doing everything from the ground up. Like I love seeing a pile of dirt turn into a foundation, I love seeing a foundation turned into a house, and I just love finishing it”

 

After working through several jobs, Garrett eventually decided to start his own business and build houses on his own at age 26. Among some of the reasons influencing this decision, he often struggled keeping jobs due to his lifestyle and wanted to work for himself.

 

“And maybe I'd show up on Monday, maybe I wouldn't and then finally do that (until) like 26… I was really quick to make decisions when I was not sober and I was like you know what I'm done making people money I'm gonna start my own business. And you know I had like no work lined up and barely had any tools… and I just dove into it man”

 

Garrett struggled with alcoholism and substance abuse for a majority of his career until deciding to become sober in his 30s. Starting work early on in an environment that enabled this lifestyle created an ongoing conflict in between his habits and work life. 

 

“I didn't realize how much this stuff was affecting my mindset.. until I cleared up my mind and I got sober.. I literally I'm living proof of what sobriety can do for someone.. I wouldn't be standing on my front porch on the house that I built talking to you guys right now, if I wasn't sober.”

 

In his 30’s, Garrett is learning to channel his energy into being a workaholic and continue building his business. Recently, his company landed a contract to build a custom home. From partying hard and working job to job, to being sober and working for himself, Garrett has built his way to the top from the ground up.

 

 

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Jeremy Perkins  0:00  

This is Jeremy and Eric here with bucket talk powered by BRUNT. This week we're here with Garrett Garrett is known for his building, and he goes by the name of life of Bub. But before we get into it, Eric, what's been going on?

Eric Girouard  0:14  

So obviously works been crazy with all things BRUNT but weekends and in free time has been more focused on family. My wife's dad's been down living with us for a little bit at some time in the hospital, and he lives alone. So he's down with us. And we got two kids, and now my wife, Father, and we're crammed in a house that does not have enough bedrooms for everyone. And so we're starting to figure out what the next phase of life is going to look like, I wish I could have someone like life of bubs build my house, but that's not on the cards these days. So figuring out first need to start looking to move in some new options because pretty tight living quarters right now, so not the most exciting update, but that's what I've been dealing with. For me

Jeremy Perkins  0:59  

it's been family focused as well. Lucy just entered into her first horse show, she's six now. And she had a lead line horse show the other day. And she goes I'm gonna win a ribbon house like okay, and I didn't know how these things work so I show up at the farm the other day and you know, all the girls are out there riding around and doing the whole thing and then we get to Lucy's competition. And she's the only one she wants to see. Not only did she when she got first in three different classes, so she came home like beaming ear to ear she's like dad, I knew I was gonna get it and then she was the only one in the class. But the work up to it. I mean, honestly, we you know, we get up in the morning, we got to do all the chores to get out like for a Saturday show, we load up the horse Lucy's dressed up like head to toe, like riding apparel, you know, the horses come out and everything. And then it's like, I don't want to tell the girl but it's it's completely anticlimactic as a parent, like work. We do all this work, bring her down there, somebody walks around the ring with a lead ribbon, she gets a ribbon. But you know, it made her day. So I was pretty stoked about that. And, you know, I guess that's that's the horse life now. So But anyway, now that we're in Maine, and it's good to host a Mainer here and I'm looking into getting into the show with Garrett.

Eric Girouard  2:32  

Awesome, awesome. This is bucket talk weekly podcast for people who work in the trades and construction that aren't just trying to survive, but have the ambition and desire to thrive. The opportunity to trades and construction is absolutely ridiculous right now, so if you're hungry, it's time to eat. We discussed what it takes to rise from the bottom to the top with people who are well on their way and roll up their sleeves every single day.

Jeremy Perkins  3:02  

All right, today on this episode of bucket talk, we're here with Garrett also known the life of Bub by his Instagram handle welcome Garrett.

Garrett Davis  3:11  

Yo, what's up guys?

Jeremy Perkins  3:12  

Nothing much. We want to get down to figure out what the hell you do during the day.

Garrett Davis  3:17  

Too much.

Jeremy Perkins  3:19  

Take us back. I want to go way back out. How the hell did you get into the building trades

Garrett Davis  3:23  

I had an uncle that was super blue collar he built houses. his stepfather was like a real estate developer and pretty much when he was a young cat he was handed a bunch of money that be like hey, what can you do with this and he did a lot with it and became very successful. So he just bought a bunch of lands and was constantly building houses. I come from a really not blue collar family, I'll say so my dad was a business man. My mother was kind of a businesswoman. Not a lot of people did blue collar stuff in my family like my brother love them to pieces, but you know, he probably couldn't swing a hammer very well today. So I was just always like, really like, infatuated and I kind of envied my uncle. He was an uncle at like 12 so when I was young, he wasn't even that old. He was like in his early 20s he always had you know the nice you know, the Chevy's were awesome back then the square bodies and well and he just like I just always really appealed to me so school was never for me ever, like ever like from early age to high school. I just graduated I needed to get a 70 or higher on an algebra final to graduate high school and I got to 72 once I got out of high school man, I just knew that like, I had kind of dabbled in stuff with my uncle in the summers and, and I just really liked working with my hands. I have crazy ADHD. I'm really hyper I got a lot of energy. So like being in the trades was kind of just I was just born to do it. Once I got out of high school. I took a year off Completely just wasted a year no I drank my face off got super bad and drugs worked like a pizza delivery job. And here and there I was working for my uncle when I would go broke I would go down and help him out here and there and make some cash. So it wasn't till I was like 19 when I really tried college and after that year I took off and after two months of college, I was like school is just not for me, I can't sit down in the classroom, I'm not gonna be a business man. I can't test well so I just dropped out of college I withdrew from all my classes and I dove into the trades and just started working with my uncle and now I'm 34 I've been doing this for almost 16 years now. And you know, I worked for him for a while and then we had a falling out because working for family can suck and after I stopped working for him, I went work for a company out of Portland Maine for a while and had some kind of shitty jobs in between there. I just always really struggled. I had my demons I battled alcoholism and drug addiction and the whole reason I stopped working from my uncle is because of my addiction problems that's kind of why we had our falling out once I stopped working for him I just struggled to keep jobs because you know I always party too hard on the weekends. And maybe I'd show up on Monday maybe I wouldn't and then finally do that like 26 I just said I was really quick to make decisions when I was not sober and I was like you know what i'm done making people money I'm gonna start my own business. And you know I had like no work lined up and barely had any tools because I was always working for others I had the tools I needed and I just dove into it man and here I am like 34 years old almost coming to close on my sixth year in business. I'm almost four years sober and things are just absolutely incredible and business is booming. I landed my first custom home and it's a huge job and it's keeping me real busy and I'm just like super grateful today and I'm glad that like I can wake up every day and I get to go face challenges in the blue collar world man I couldn't imagine that in any other way to be honest

Jeremy Perkins  7:15  

your frame to finish your from the foundation up that's what you do now how long you've been doing that or have you just been a framer all the way up until a certain point or Have you always been doing all of it

Garrett Davis  7:28  

my uncle built houses and I kind of watched all the guys I was there I was the labor you know handed rafters up and hand and sheep's plywood up and you know we weren't using walls and stuff like we know it wasn't that long ago but really that I feel like machinery just came into the framing world not that long ago so you know I was just the guy getting everybody everything except I always wanted to understand what I was handing them I'm like okay, they just cut this and now I'm handing it like what are they doing with it and then I would watch that and then I'm like okay, I just handed him the sheet of plywood and then I'd watched that and you know I feel like a lot of younger kids nowadays do not have that mindset they're just ready to make a paycheck and they don't give a shit what they're handing they just want to get through the day and that was not me from I knew like if I was going to make a living doing this I wanted to excel I wanted to be better I wanted to have a skill set and so framing did that for a while and then kind of was like hey why don't we work on trim together on this house so he had me knock out some baseboard and then I did baseboard and then he's like Hey, why don't I show you how to do door trim and then he did door trim. So by the end of it working for my uncle I was doing a lot of finished work. I really liked finish work and when I worked for that company in Portland It was pretty much just strictly kitchens and bathrooms. So when I went on my own I kind of got into renovations doing additions, renovations, kitchens, bathrooms, decks, you know, whatever, anytime I landed in addition, I got really excited because I got to frame and you know, the last two years when I decided to build my wife and I our house, I started building it and I was just like, it just brought me back and made me realize that I really, I really enjoy doing everything from the ground up. Like I love seeing a pilot there turn into a foundation. I love seeing a foundation turned into a house and I just love finishing it so it's like once I did my house I just blew up on Instagram because I really wanted to get my name out there. I wanted people to know that I could do this stuff because a lot of people didn't realize you know, they just saw me on Instagram as a guy doing renovations and decks and they didn't realize that I could build a house I watched

Jeremy Perkins  9:40  

my brother in law go from you know, come over off the boat from Ireland. And he was a young framebridge carpenter by trade and worked in New York. You know, that's all they did was just frame frame frame. And his older brothers were finished carpenters and you know, they had years on them, but they were building these like ornate bars and everything like that, but a lot Long story short essentially when he started to do side work that's what he did was like decks and he loved doing decks because I mean it was easy for a framer to translate because it's essentially more framing it's just exterior and then his progression from there was the same to go to you know doing bathrooms doing remodels and cabinets stuff like that and yeah now he's in my sister are essentially building houses it's amazing that you can get this skill set you can watch all of yourselves all laborers everybody on the job site and get those connections and then as you progress I mean the natural progression is to be a builder to be honest with you.

Garrett Davis  10:35  

Right? I was at lunch yesterday with my sales guy at Hammond lumber we had to go over the framing package one last time because we're getting ready to frame the custom that I'm building. He's like you just need to be a general contractor and I'm like, well I am a general contractor he's like yeah, but you need to put your tool belt down and I'm like dude, I can't do it. I'm only 34 there's nothing more I love than throwing on my diamond back till about diamond back shout out right there and just working man and we broke ground on this custom home at the end of May it was pretty much a mountain so we had to blast it and we've literally been four months of site work and it's like every day I'm on site I'm talking to my site guy I'm getting electricians They're digging trenches I just like there's so much communication to make sure everything goes right and it's like I come home at night and after eight hours of talking to people I'm more tired than I am if I would just throw my tool belt on and swing a hammer I feel like that's what kind of separates me from others because I'm not just the guy showing up with a polo shirt on saying yeah, this guy is gonna frame this and pointing fingers like I'm gonna be like yeah, this guy's gonna do that that's me that's gonna do it and here I am like not only am I getting everything gathered from nothing and bringing it all to the framing stage like I'm going to be the one framing it I'm going to be the one doing the finishes I'm going to be here on site managing the job site while actually giving you a product and I feel like a lot of builders don't do that anymore. They're just about everything. And you know whether they're loyal subs or good subs who knows but I feel like they're always just chasing like oh the next guy will get that oh mess that went up next guy will get it but I don't want to be that builder. I'm on site every day like I was there with plumbers the other day. Running string lines making sure walls are where they're supposed to be because we had to run pipes that were in a concrete floor. Guess what? Once the floor is poured, there's concrete poured around pipes that are underground, that need to be exact and destiny was going to be framing that wall where those pipes are supposed to go into me so it's like, I feel like that is I don't know, I feel like it sets me apart.

Jeremy Perkins  12:33  

Which is cool. Well, it is awesome because if you follow anybody on Instagram, tik tok, whatever, you're gonna see the trade memes and you'll see, you know, the plumber that cut through all the studs to run his plumbing. I mean, that stuff's funny because it resonates with us, but it's true to orchestrate that whole thing from top to bottom to have drywallers not cover over you know, electrical outlets for you know, everything to work in unison it takes a lot and it takes a lot of trust in your subs. It's wild. It's like you're conducting your own house, you know, and some people other fly by night builders and they do it half assed, but there's other people that are, you know, involved in every step of the way. And it sounds like you are no good to see.

Garrett Davis  13:13  

Dude, I was just talking to some friends of ours, and I won't name drop, but it's a company at a Westbrook man. There's several companies, so no one's gonna be able to pick it. But they had a house built by them. And they built them the wrong house. Right? And when they like, realized it, they're like, well, if you don't want it, we'll just sell to somebody else. Like they just don't care. Like I'm like that's, that's horrendous. run a business and be like that. That's just like, appalling man.

Jeremy Perkins  13:46  

Well, for those who don't know, me, and Gareth, Matt, he came up to my farm, which is like a mass and came to advise me on the next steps of building and what have you, but I think I shared the story with them, and I'll share it with our listeners is the fact that so we built the house in Massachusetts prior to us up and leaving on our new journey of farm life. But you're right, we had an old house that were kind of restoring. And as you know, with chimneys, they go from first floor through the second floor, out the roof, the architect didn't project or draw up or whatever the hell you want to call it. The chimney in the second floor. So you know, he had the fireplace in the first floor, didn't have it on the second floor was a hallway. And you know, came out the roof. So by the time you were framing, we realized that we actually had to take the chimney down, because that was the cheaper of the two options. And it was like how the heck did you miss this? It's unbelievable. So attention to detail. 100% is like you guys have all your ducks in a

Garrett Davis  14:47  

row. Yeah, so this one I'm building is super, super detailed. It's a really modern home and there's just an tremendous amount of stuff going on. It's a lot and it's like I'm standing at the point. You know, trying to make sure nothing that everything goes as smooth as possible ones, my buddy, my buddy Ben Moore, and he's on Instagram. He's a phenomenal framer and carpenter, him and his crew are actually joining me on the frame, but he's pushing on me because I'm the GC. So I'm making sure that toilets aren't landing where Joyce is supposed to be in, like, just making sure that when he shows up, because he's gonna mean business and we're gonna just fly it's a lot. I've always generally contract all my jobs. So like bathroom renovations, I have all my subs. But those are smaller scale, like I'm looking at this job. It's way bigger scale. But it's a bunch of small jobs combined into one to make a big job. So I'm just trying to kind of think of it like that. But it's a lot. It's not my first custom home and I'm in the millions that this is a very expensive house. So it's pretty

Jeremy Perkins  15:46  

cool about your area. And I can't speak to the rest of the United States because I haven't ventured too far out. But

Eric Girouard  15:51  

Jeremy hasn't looked Master Man. There's no need to jump seats in between.

Jeremy Perkins  15:59  

But for people that don't know, I mean, for you to be a builder in your area, you have rural camps, right? You have Sea coast, Maine, which has like some of the the wealthiest and the most famous, right? And then you have everything in between. So you could go from, you know, building an A frame cabin on 60 acres of hunting property right, to building a, you know, 7000 square foot house on the ocean. You know what I mean? That the amount of skill and the skill set that you need to have and be diverse is amazing.

Garrett Davis  16:30  

Yeah. And I mean, it's proven facts to like, in New England, we just build better. I'm gonna get a lot. But we do. New England, we are some of the best carpenters in the United States. It's a proven fact. There you go. Since the pilgrims, right, it's crazy. Because I mean, don't get me wrong. Did you go to California, they got their like, earthquake country, they got to do some crazy ass shit on building homes. But like, people see stuff from us New England areas, like, especially Maine, and they see what we're doing. And they're like, why are you doing? And I'm like, cuz that's how we do it. Like, there's another way to do it. It's so like, common knowledge to me. But some people are just like blown away. They're like strapping Dude, you know how many people don't strap throughout the United States. We're like one of the only places that does strapping on ceilings, a lot of people just connect sheet rock right to trusses,

Jeremy Perkins  17:23  

right. Plus, there's a lot of old houses out here. I mean, a lot of the places in the United States, it's newer construction, but like, my house is from the 1790s. Like, I mean, and we're thinking about saving it and people are coming over and they understand the timber framing and all that that went into it. And they're like, yeah, we can do this, or we can do that. And other people throughout the United States may have not seen that, you know,

Garrett Davis  17:48  

I had a bunch of people asking me why there wasn't any rebar in the floor on the custom that I'm building right now. And I'm like, well, it's not a slab. If it was just a slab and I was gonna build a house on it. There'd be rebar, but it's like, you know, I had like three Californians like reach out they're like, Why are you putting rebar on that floor? I'm like, dude, I don't live in earthquake country like it's gonna be okay.

Eric Girouard  18:11  

Yeah, but I put this Roswell shit on the side here cuz you guys know what the hell that

Garrett Davis  18:17  

was another thing people are like, why are you building a wall? If it's slab on grade, I'm like, cuz it's frost protection. We have two and a half feet of frost in the dead of winter. So it's, it's cool to see how other people do it all over. But there's just so much flak that you get on Instagram. Once you have a following. It's just like, Man, you just get some shit sometimes. Yeah,

Eric Girouard  18:41  

yeah, no, no. So one of the questions we always like to ask is, you're a seasoned veteran at the ripe old age of 34 when you are getting into this even with your uncle, even in the early start, where it was rough, what's the number one thing you know now that you would wish you knew earlier on in your career where you get into this building kind of world

Garrett Davis  19:02  

I actually did a post on this it kind of goes more towards my personal life. Like I my uncle was a party animal and everybody that worked for him was a party animal. So like a young age, I saw guys just you know, three o'clock came it was clean up time and they were drinking I was like, This is cool. And I hooked on to that like real quick and it brought me to a dark place man. I wish that some of those guys that told me that you know, they had three marriages and they don't see their kids one of the cut guys on the framing crew was on his like Cisco UI and he was still driving a truck drunk. And you know, I was young and I didn't understand but that's just like crazy to me now and, and were brought me you know, at the age of 30. If I had kept going the way I was going, I probably wouldn't be on this podcast talking to you guys right now. So I guess I wish people had just been a little more honest with me and been like, Hey man, be careful with that. Cuz, you know, I started drinking at a young age but as soon as I was 18, that's all I looked for my uncle would always give me shit and he would say Garrett's awesome from Wednesday to Thursday. And then Friday, my mind was out the door because I was planning on what I was going to do for the weekend. So it's like, you know, party all weekend, wake up hungover shit on Monday, kind of coming out of it on Tuesday feeling pretty good on Wednesday, feeling really good Thursday, and then Friday, you know, it was just like, I had drugs involved too. So I feel like that kind of brings me to a quicker halt of things. You know, I really don't care about talking about it. I talk about it all the time. And I really liked coke. I was doing a ton of cocaine by the time I was 13. And, you know, I overdosed twice. And, you know, if I hadn't gotten the rehab and gotten the help I had, I don't know, I guess just, you know, till like any young guys, I get a lot of people reaching out. It's like, I don't think that's the

Jeremy Perkins  20:57  

life speaks to that, too, is I think that's one of the negative sides of trade work sometimes is the fact that you get into this group and you know, everybody's going out for beers on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and you know, for some, it's fine for others, you know, it can become a problem and you see it and it's definitely something that you need to navigate at a young age and be able to handle yourself and you got to look out for you Don't let the pressure get to you. You know what I mean?

Garrett Davis  21:20  

Right, right. Yeah, man, I mean, wasn't even much pressure Dude, I was just I remember like, being like, 15 they're like, smoking a doobie. And they're like, here, you want some of this? And I'm like, Okay, sure. And then, you know, the next thing I know, I'm 16 and I'm smoking pot every day. And it's just like, I didn't realize how much this stuff was like affecting my mindset and all of it until I cleared up my mind and I got sober and I mean, I literally I'm living proof of what sobriety can do for someone. If you have a problem and you decide that you want to get rid of it, because it's like, dude, I wouldn't be standing on my front porch on the house that I built talking to you guys right now, if I wasn't sober. This is like the stuff that I dreamed about. Like I sat on a barstool at two o'clock on a Tuesday being like, Oh, yeah, I'm real busy, you know, and I had, I had no work and no money in my pocket, but I was at a bar drunk. So it's like, I'm living the stuff that I used to pretend to live.

Jeremy Perkins  22:17  

Yeah, and be in touch base on that, you know, last time we met and that you had said that your ambitions and your dreams have actually become a reality now that your mind is clear, and the focus is on your family and your career. Yep. So that's, you know, it's kudos to you for finding your way at the ripe old age of

Eric Girouard  22:36  

34 Yeah.

Garrett Davis  22:39  

Dude, I barely remember my 30th birthday but it's like to think about the half my life was party like you know, and it's been hard to do things I used to love to sit around a fire drink beer, I didn't care if there was 10 people with me 20 people or I was by myself I would have a good time and it's like, it's hard for me to sit around a fire now by myself man like that. Weird that I've had to change everything I had to change the people I hang around I took all the energy that I put into pardoning and I put it into my business I mean some people would workaholic including my wife but you know our bills are paid we have limited debt I built this a house businesses good I think I could be worse things I could just not be here because that's the way I was going to so

Jeremy Perkins  23:24  

shifting focus that's that's the way you got to coin it. I shifted focus from one thing to another

Garrett Davis  23:30  

right totally man, but showed me my worth. I talked about this last time too. It's like you got to know your worth and I didn't really know it when I wasn't sober I was a yes man you know Yep, yep, yep. Oh yeah, you need me to do that cheaper Okay, no problem. Oh, it just won't make money on this job you know, and now it's like I know my worth I know my skill set I know what I'm gonna bring to the table so it helps a lot.

Eric Girouard  23:53  

I know it helps to have a business there's a few successful people that have seen the depth there's a guy Grant Cardone that he's kind of flashy is kind of obnoxious, but he's got a jet he's a real estate guy, but he was like in the depths of hell when he was like 19 completely addicted to drugs. And then he went to rehab and he pivoted like his addiction now is his work right so he probably you know start scratches that can get in all of a sudden he's like he just goes to work he works probably way too much. But it's like he turned it into work and now he's like, you know, he's a speaker and it's got a G seven jet and all these all this real estate and he turned that into like something positive to some degree. Some people will say you're working to LifeWay, but it's like, better than being dead, you know?

Garrett Davis  24:36  

Right? And if you like what you do, then it's not really worth Mm hmm. You know, I like what I do. I don't like it. I love it. So it makes it easy.

Eric Girouard  24:44  

You do what you love for a living. You never work a day in your life.

Garrett Davis  24:48  

Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, I couldn't imagine doing anything else, man. It's just the way the way.

Jeremy Perkins  24:55  

Yeah. So outside of everything, like I know that you don't Do the partying and whatever but like how do you unwind man? What do you do fishing, hunting skydiving whatever.

Garrett Davis  25:05  

Yeah, I like to session I like to hunt it didn't get a chance to fish this year as pathetic as it is I live on a pond and I have a kayak. I didn't go out fishing so but yeah, no I like to fish I duck on. I'm like pretty serious. Actually next week, my framer, Ben had to push me off a week to clear up some other stuff so he's just on my site not having to worry about anything else my brother and my brother's got a boat with a built in blind and he's got two black labs that are like, you know, purebred black labs that came from like crazy hunting blood so they're like really well trained. So yeah, looking forward to it dude, I actually have not counted since I got sober so this will be the first time in four years like I said, Dude, I turned to a workaholic. I have no hobbies.

Jeremy Perkins  25:50  

I think the first manner that I met when I came out from Massachusetts they looked at me sideways like you haven't entered the moose lottery and I was like, No, I gotta do it next year but I guess it's a big thing up in Maine to get a moose tag and and go out there

Garrett Davis  26:04  

Yeah, man. I mean, they called the most lottery for a reason to it is like hitting the lottery because there's a lot of people that put in for it, you know? Yeah, it all depends on the area you get to you know, you might not get a good area so like, people are serious about that. I've actually never got a moose before. Now.

Jeremy Perkins  26:21  

I haven't shot anything other than a tree.

Garrett Davis  26:25  

I'm like a weird Hunter. So like, my brother is like, I will kill anything and I will eat it. And I'm kinda like I like to shoot ducks. Ducks tastes good. I like ducks but like deer man I've never been deer honey I have a hard time like we got deer around here got a little family a deer they're like safe in the woods here like I'm not hunting them you know no hunting on my land and it's like I don't know man. I don't know if I could kill one. If it was like a 12 point buck and it was like staring right at me I could probably see that but like I'm not a I'm not a meat Hunter. I'm not gonna go out and shoot like 100 pound dough you know what I mean?

Jeremy Perkins  26:58  

Yeah, it's funny because you know all I've done is put rounds on target talk about how I'm going to go hunting this year. I think I went out actually me and Eric went out we went out turkey hunting up in Maine a buddy of mine took us to a video

Eric Girouard  27:11  

Did you have Do you have a gun if you didn't have a gun? I was like watch someone turkey

Jeremy Perkins  27:22  

he's making calls in the woods we sat out there for about six hours I had to take a shipment back there was like there was nothing I guess it was six hours away you know just to clear your mind I guess.

Garrett Davis  27:37  

Have you been here Have you been up like notice driving the gravel roads and going on for Partridge now I see that that's fun.

Eric Girouard  27:46  

So you you're in your truck right you're out on the roads and then you wait to come across Partridge and shoot around the truck or do you have to get out or you have to get out of the truck and

Garrett Davis  27:55  

you got to get out of the truck you can't have a gun loaded in the truck you have your ammo ready you friggin open the doors step foot on the gravel put your ammo in and then boom shoot it

Jeremy Perkins  28:05  

my favorites the videos of the game warden popping out of rushes you get out of the truck with your gun and he's like you got around there right there

Unknown Speaker  28:13  

roads like no big cartridge

Jeremy Perkins  28:19  

was like but that's a problem on there. I mean people just shoot from their truck I mean it's a problem everywhere but mainly in the northern states in the hunting states is literally they'll they'll bait

Eric Girouard  28:28  

well when we go ATV which by the way I love ATV we see so many damn if you're the lead Yeah, the amount of Partridge you see on these trails is insane.

Jeremy Perkins  28:38  

Like maybe we should bring guns next time.

Eric Girouard  28:41  

I think one of us had a gun last time.

Garrett Davis  28:46  

Yeah, my uncle had a camp up in Greenville. We used to go up the festive season like right around this time for like a week or two and just go out here on every day and then just party it up. It was always a good time purchase hunting is super fun. And then if you don't get anything you still get to like drive around out the wilderness and you know, get down some sketchy roads with your truck. It's fun. Yeah, yeah. So

Jeremy Perkins  29:09  

this is kind of my last questions. We kind of wrap it up. I know the answer the question. I really want you to explain why because it's actually pretty cool. But the number one tool that you rely on, you'd mentioned it before about your belt. But tell everybody about how simple your tool belt is compared to guys nowadays.

Garrett Davis  29:27  

Well I have I don't have one tool belt I have several But yeah, I haven't hacker best leather tool belt right now. It's got like a mini pouch on my non dominant side on my left side. I'm right handed and that just kind of holds my speed square. Couple bits and you know, whatever fastener I'm using, and then I have a fleet like a sheath on my right side that just holds my hammer, a knife, my tape, and it's it's pretty sweet. I'm not a big leather guy. I used to rock occidental But that's a good slim setup for doing small tasks like if I'm ever you know like framing I don't think I could use that framing but I have like every diamond bag tool belt that you can possibly think of I am an ambassador for them so I have a lot from them so I can always just like make Frankenstein's like I'm gonna use this Eagle pouch and put this weird pouch on this side today I'm like I was pretty nice. But typically I'm either walking my grand de setup which is got big pouches I have big hands so it's nice for me to have big pouches I would like to try to activists some of his leather pouches but I'm just worried they're gonna be too heavy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm skinny so

Jeremy Perkins  30:41  

yeah, you're like six foot six like 125 pounds soaking wet.

Eric Girouard  30:46  

Yeah, Jeremy's the opposite. For 660

Jeremy Perkins  30:58  

I'm still fascinated by the sheets versus like the hammer loop or you know, whatever everybody else is doing with their hammers. Trust me I'm a mechanic by trade so I just put it in a drawer and then I pull it out and put it on the card so it's like I never really had like something to hang it on but I thought it was pretty cool that it's almost like a sleeve that you put it in I still can't get over it so

Garrett Davis  31:18  

diamond back has the hammer sleeve same thing Yeah, it's way better than having it on the back or whacking you in the leg or on the front whacking you in the knee it kind of just goes on to your side and stays out of your way yeah super easy to grab

Jeremy Perkins  31:30  

yeah

Eric Girouard  31:31  

yeah I've been liking those fancy colored What is it Martinez hammers that have been seen on the ground

Jeremy Perkins  31:36  

do calm like dude I grew up my dad like gave me his swing hammer and every time I swing it the hammer flies out of the grip but like I've had it forever and now these Martinez hammer, the stilettos and everything they're like like for two bucks

Garrett Davis  31:49  

yeah well stilettos aren't that bad if you get a T ball and they're kind of expensive I have an m one and I have an M for finishing hammer I use my M one if I'm like framing like I'm about to be here in the next week and a half because they're just really nice but I typically just rock a wood grip stiletto it's a 14 ounce but it's swings like a 22 and it's lightest shit and it was only like 90 bucks they're all now seeing

Jeremy Perkins  32:12  

that they got like some of the higher end like aluminum hammers have like removable heads and

Garrett Davis  32:17  

Martinez yeah

Jeremy Perkins  32:18  

yeah that's that's insane

Garrett Davis  32:20  

yeah so you can take off a Martinez framing head and put on a finish head or you can even put like an axe and or a sledgehammer they're expensive but they are nice hammers all my

Jeremy Perkins  32:29  

hammers are head below ball peen hammers and they're all made by snap on so there's no diversity there.

Garrett Davis  32:36  

My brother in law is paraffin near but he he helped a buddy out who owns a mechanic shop like right right close to me so he's like part owner and that's where I bring like my trucks or anything and I'm always like fascinated by the amount of cool as tools that Raji always has I'm like, like how do you get into that spot? He's like oh check this thing out I'm just like it's so many cool tools.

Jeremy Perkins  32:57  

That's an addiction I caught a meme the other day that was pretty cool as the guy's like essentially you know I have enough tools in my toolbox to get everything I need done every day but when the snap on tool truck shows up somehow I'm buying something else and I have no clue how that works but I need it

Garrett Davis  33:14  

I think any person in any trade has a tool addiction I mean I have every tool that I could possibly need but I'm always like oh I could I could probably use that you know Yeah, define it.

Jeremy Perkins  33:26  

Alright, well at this point you know I want to wrap this up it's been good so we can continue this forever. Not everybody has the time but you can take the time to plug anything that you want at this point. You know,

Eric Girouard  33:38  

obviously your grant handle will tag and plug all that stuff right

Jeremy Perkins  33:41  

right now so it's important the life of

Garrett Davis  33:44  

the life of Bob I made that my name because I live in Maine and everybody says Bob and I'm like, well, this is kind of like my life's life above here I am you know, eight years later after being on Instagram still my name Yeah.

Jeremy Perkins  33:58  

I love it and you're that on tik tok and then all other social platforms?

Garrett Davis  34:02  

Yeah, tik tok is though it's th a and then also I just started I can send you guys the link I'm trying to get like a YouTube going I don't want it to be like all the other channels out there though. Like how to like I kind of want to make it like entertaining and like I don't know the custom builds gonna be perfect cuz I have all of my subs like and we're gonna be there for like months and I have like some really really good and caring like my sheet rockers who I'm starting to channel I already started it I did an intro video. I'm going to just wing it I have no idea what I'm doing I'm not freaking our buildings or any of these other guys that have been doing it for a while but I'm gonna wing it and see what happens and it's Gary parentheses Bob Davis. Boom.

Eric Girouard  34:43  

Alright, fancy will tag that will tag that right Jeremy make sure we don't forget that.

Jeremy Perkins  34:47  

Yeah, it's something that bear trap.

Eric Girouard  34:52  

Awesome, awesome. This has been great. And we really, really appreciate you taking the time. Obviously you got a ton on your plate with this custom build right now. So every 15 minutes is super valuable so this has been awesome that and definitely appreciate you also opening up the kimono and sharing some of the harder times which is you know, hopefully it helped a lot of folks out there that are dealing with the same stuff and we always say if any of our podcasts help one person then that's more than we ever expected so you know hopefully that's the case here. Yeah,

Garrett Davis  35:18  

for sure, man. Now, I appreciate you guys having me on and I also appreciate you know, the we haven't even talked about it, but the bronc boots man, I absolutely love them. So

Eric Girouard  35:27  

That's right. That's right. Yeah, Jared. We got another pair going out there soon. So

Garrett Davis  35:32  

yeah, they're good man. You guys have done good